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When we did some filming for a NI scene, we handed one fo the actors the sterling the first thing he did was mimick firing it holding on to the magazine, We smiled let him have his fun and then corrected him, when the filming was done, he held it spot on. We also advised another TV company that one of the biggest FK ups when people do Falkland battle scenes is attacking in CEMO with Bergens on. He listened and went ok and promptly forgot what we told him and because we could not be there for the filming and when the programme aired he attacked in full CEMO with large packs on :nut: Jon

Oh I quite agree, I think I was tired when I posted hence maybe a little bit tetchy ...lol Jon

Hi I am just wondering what people know about the development and introduction years of various combat dress. I have some general ideas, but I am unsre as to the whether it is just myth or misinterpretation. 1952 Pattern Combat Dress 1960 Pattern Combat Dress 1966 Pattern Combat Dress (1960 Pattern DPM) 1968 Pattern Combat Dress (1974/74 Pattern Combat Dress?? off shoot to 1968 never classified) 1984/85 Pattern Combat Dress 1990 Pattern Combat Dress 1994 Pattern Combat Dress (Off shoot to 1990 Patt) CS95 (CS = Clothing System or Combat Soldier??) 1952 Pattern consited of Smock, Trousers and Hood, in olive Satine (polyester, acetate, nylon, and rayon). Influenced by the American M1943 Combat uniform and as a result of experiences in the Korean war. Issued for trial purposes. 1960 Pattern consited of Smock and trousers in Olive Cotton(?). Developed in 1958 and was a further development of the 1952 pattern. Hood issued for use with the 60 patt was the 1952 patt. Issued from 1960 (?) onwards. 1966 Pattern was first full DPM uniform. Consited of Smock and trousers made from Cotton???. Was a furthur development of the 1960 pattern and in fact is labeled 1960 pattern. Issued for trials from 1966 to ? (?) Double layered with inside material made of ???? in a shiny brownish colour 1968 Pattern. Consists of Smock, Trousers, Hood and Cap. Made in DPM material. Using the same cut of cloth as 60 pattern but with a few alterations. Trined lined with an additional layer of olive cotton. Issued for use from 1972 till late 1980's. (??) 1974/75 pattern Basic 68 pattern due to better production processes, material colour change, no concernable differences. (Could this be when labels changed??? from just Size 1 to 9 to Size and Nato??) 1984 Pattern (Known widely as 1985 Pattern) Introduced for use from 1986 to late 1990's (?), consits of Smock and Trousers. Made out of cotton. Developed as direct experiences in the Falklands war. Velcro cuffs, Billowed pockets, half lined trousers, dpm lining at shoulders. Fell aprt all too easily, so squadies preffered older kit. 1990 Pattern (?) Revamp of the 1984 pattern consits of Smock and trousers, made from cotton in more robust material DPM even darker colour, jackets had two vertical zipped pockets either side of the main zip. Trousers did not have a lining and had draw strings at the waste and ankles. 1994 Pattern (?) 1990 pattern but different colour. Brown is more reddish and Ochre is more mustard in colour.Inside of garments is Mustard in colour. CS95, First introduction of modular system using all new materials, Ripstop, Gortex and Fleece. Green is more of an apple green in colour. Consited of tropical style trousers and shirt, Smock/jacket, Gortex Trousers and Jacket, Fleece jacket. Comments and corrections welcomed. Ta Jon

If that's a green water bootle in that picture, I'm in trouble as I may need more than my eyes tested...lol Jon

Does any one actualy have a set of 52 pattern combat smock and trousers also the 1950 bush jacket?? ta Jon

Withdrawn from sale on the advice of the Police who advised them on their weapons policy....Hmmm....I wonder which PRATT advised them and he better look into the free trade laws which I suspect they are breaking. Jon

I have just found that site myself..lol :cool2: That what got me asking. Some interesting information but still not sure on the 90 pattern, some confusion between whetehr it is 90 or 94 pattern or even both!! Jon

Airportable Your trops may well be 1950 pattern Bush trousers. Jon

Out of interest. Does any one seen or own a 1960 pattern Hood??? Ta Jon

Holy cow its a Swdish version, you did not say it was Swedish...er...Did you? :undecided: Can't wait to see it Jon

Mark Sod the uniforms, mow that grass :nut: LOL Jon

Hi I am after a close up picture or the L16 81mm Mortar C2 sight mount with out the sight fitted. I can't find anything and wonder if any one has a picture or diagram of the mounting plate. Ta Jon

Hey Sharky Can I have your BV202 so you can have room to store your 105. Ta Jon Ps: is it a private collection or is it open for viewing?

Hey Gordon I seen that one on the Perth to inverness road when I went to see my friend at Lossiemouth. Missed it in the dark on the up run, saw it in the day time on the down run whilst in traffic, so following year I looked out for it and pulled over on the down run and went to the farm but no one was in, I quickly got some pictures of it and it was featured in one of the Mil Vehicle mags. I will dig out the pics I have. Ta Jon

Several options spring to mind. First is find some suitable donor drums and insert the end or overlay the end. Second is maybe donate them to a museum? Or both Interesting find never the less. Ta Jon

Question arises is that why do you not check the vehicle data plates and manuals for the information? searching on the internet would have got you the answers far quicker and in a less protracted way. Needless to say i still read the thread..lol Jon

What book are you reading at the moment? My AA renewal notice, good bit of fantasy comedy. Don't they know theres a recession on. Jon

Isn't that the letter they have written to every other third world country and banker on the damn planet. Jon

I think it dates back to when Lords of illrepute had private armies, and only the crown armies were alowed to move artillery about or somethng to that effect. Next time I see my friend I will ask him for more info. Jon

A question arose over whether it is legal to tow artillery on the road or not? There is aparently an old law that states that it is illegal to tow artillery peices on the highway. Does any one know about this one? Ta Jon

What make is the T-55 with mine plough in the museum? Czech or Polish?? Jon PS:Hi Matteo

Comrades, we of the capitalist reactionary oposition group (F80) are pleased that you have taken time to show us the machines that will cleanse the corupted west of the unclean war mongers as we will now be able to correctly identify what tank we destroy with our Charlie G. I shall of course in my role of double agent slow down the distribution of such valuable information to the NATO agents that now even plot your downfall. Take care comrades as those pig dog spies are amongst you Jon :cool2: Ps: Cool Pics

Boddies!

I'll ask him next time I speak to him, it may well be 1944 dated and I am getting the sate confused with the Mk3. Ta Jon

Cool, does the engine run? I was suprised when they decided to get rid of these, they should have been deployed to Afghanistan, imagine the impact they would have had. Oh well the Armies loss is your gain Ta Jon