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Hi This has allways confused me a little as to the designation of the mid 80's dpm Some sources claim it is 1984 pattern yet every one I talk to say its 85 pattern. So is it 85 pattern or 84 pattern DPM. Your thoughts please ta Jon

Hi Pigdog What size are you, I may have overlooked the post but can not find any thing to help us to point you in the right direction? Uniform needed before 1985 is 68 pattern, tin lid, putees, kf shirt, olive light weight, 58 webbing, dms boots. 85 pattern is a no no unless doing 86 onwards then you can mix and match teh two patterns. Ta Jon

Hi Guys Thanks to this thread you have started me off, checking the NSNs. For 68 pattern i have at least 3 batches of NSNs, considering that 68 pattern was issued from the late 1960's through to the late 1980's. At first I considered different branches . But then I thought as mentioned that it may be different perriods. I make the following assumptions NSN 8405-99-973-3931 to 3940 60 Pattern NSN 8405-99-122-7329 to 7348 60 Pattern in DPM NSN 8405-99-132-2027 to 2046 68 Pattern NSN 8405-99-132-6079 to 6099 68 Pattern NSN 8415-99-132-1821 to 1840 68 Pattern If you notice the 60 pattern in DPM is a smaller number then the normal 60 pattern. That raises the question of how come? The 68 pattern now has three numbers, my memory is clouded but I either read some where or was told that 68 Pattern changed around 1974/75 but the pattern was not renamed. Basically staying the same but the material differed in some way and went slightly darker. so are we looking dates or an introductin of new patterns. Is the second 68 pattern NSN a supersession number because of the maufactoring modifications? The third I suspect like many other a 80's thing. Looking at the 8415s some have letters in front. examples CA, CH CG (look in your survive to fight at the uniform sizes? mine is 1983 dated), 1983 was also a big change date for procedures and introduction of new kit (DMS High and MK VI GRPs) Just somethings for you to think about. What we realy need is a dedicated QM to look these up an dm ake a few notes. If you guys have any more information or other NSN lists please contact me, also can you guys start posting more pictures of labels so we cans ee if there is a pattern emerging. Thanks Jon

So to speak. My user name implies that I like Panzers. Panzers, softskins, artillery and any thing else come to think of it. I have allways been interested in Military Vehicles and was hooked when I visited Bovington in my teens....Oh those memorys of so long ago... Opps.. anyways back to the subect at hand. Chevpol has allways raved about the forum so I thought it best to join and see what its all about. Vehicles I have owned: 2 BV202 snowcats and 1 coms trailer. All sadley gone now. Right now to look about the forum. thanks for having me Jon Ps. I am culprit responsible for Forces 80 arriving on the scene. :cool2: www.forces80.com also of interest for some of you and still in the process of being created www.armouruk.net