Jacksprat Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Hi all, I applied for the B card (attached) from the RLC archive (at great expense!) and excitedly downloaded it, but haven't got a clue what it means!! Can anyone help me? I have recently fulfilled my ambition and bought a 1984 Land Rover, Series 3, SWB... Thank you in advance for any help I am really excited to learn more.. Military History 81KC72.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Hi, The first line is the Aschurch Vehicle depot where all incoming vehicles are receipted and inspected by the MOD when they are delivered. Not sure what the second line is, The third line looks like the struck off records line when the vehicle was disposed of. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 D.D.E deputy director of engineering the next line cannot read to well but does refer to ordnance depot vehicle storage depot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 CompOrdDepVeh - as Wally Dugan , has me ? just now. S/O = struck off , sent to MVS (vehicle disposals of the S3 fleet) @ Fradley Park (ex-WW2 airfield) - Lichfield. You have a late CL , so high level inertia seat-belts also dual-line brakes , The towing pack is just a NATO standard LR size pintle and electrical socket for trailer lead. Not quite as a Basic civvy 88" , c/w rear seats , HD rear springs and IIRC HD shocks all round, de-luxe bonnet and a few other extras such as hasp on fuel filler cap.. I have a earlier one and the later ones may be slightly different on the Optional Extras. The very last --KD-- had other differences, in main used by US forces , security on nominal RAF bases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksprat Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 Dear all thank you very much for your help. Ruxy - Mine is a late series 3 and it does have high level inertia seat belts and dual line brakes, I don't have a towing pack as at some point has had a rear 3/4 chassis so was probably lost or sold then. It has the de-luxe bonnet I am not sure what you mean by hasp on filler cap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksprat Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 Filler cap is red if that helps!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvinthemartian Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Hasp on filler cap, so it can be padlocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksprat Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 Right thanks, yes it can be locked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jacksprat said: Dear all thank you very much for your help. Ruxy - Mine is a late series 3 and it does have high level inertia seat belts and dual line brakes, I don't have a towing pack as at some point has had a rear 3/4 chassis so was probably lost or sold then. It has the de-luxe bonnet I am not sure what you mean by hasp on filler cap? Other "Options" :- Bonnet lock hasp Pedal rubbers on brake & Clutch (not throttle) Ammeter Aux. switch panel at centre of plastic dash. ------ I think you should have chamois leather swivel housing gaiters on your chrome balls. With having dual-brakes , then the front are 11" dia. drums not 10" I think you will have front towing D rings. You may have sun-visors. You may have front bumperettes , probably not Solihull fitted (I don't think your front bumper was pre-drilled). Some were drilled for unit fit. I have a note about red reflex reflectors , IIRC mine are on rear panels but earlier still they were at ends of rear chassis tow-member. ======================= Not optional - std. with 11" drums and dual-brakes (Supervac assisted) , your axles will be 'Rationalized type) , a bit more complex and such as hub parts, seals , bearings , more £ expensive , stub alxles very expensive as no transition fitted seal runner. Edited February 19, 2018 by ruxy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 ps btw , pity you went direct to the RLC at Deepcut. I know sometimes much is missing from records. In fact I know of a --KB-- Lightweight (abt. same age) much was missing. The owner did another history search using FMW (actually I understand a bloke named Fletcher). He managed to turn out the lot inc. the 'hiden-history' . I received a copy for perusal & to file , ISTR 18 A4 pages worth inc. all he previously obtained from the RLC Museum. Much was 'generic' military info. but good if not already a Ex-MOD Landie owner. FMW seems to have a bit extra ability and a few £ cheaper LoL I don't know Fletcher , I understand he is Geof. Fletcher who was co-author of a good Ex-MOD 'Series' LR book abt. 3 years ago - worth having - abt. £18 , worth having as a set of spark-plugs and 1 gall of a good engine oil will cost you more.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 CompOrdDepVeh Knew I had seen it before , read through this lot :- http://lightweightlandrover.blogspot.co.uk/ Sorry to bore you with Lightweight propaganda - make life easy and increase your fleet number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksprat Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 Ruxy, thank you very much for your incredible help. My land rover does have: Bonnet lock hasp, Pedal rubbers on brake & Clutch (not throttle) Aux. switch panel at centre of plastic dash Towing D Rings Reflectors are on the body panels and have been carelessly half painted over by IRR paint! It doesn't have: Ammeter, where would that be? Chamois leather swivel housing gaiters (although they may have been taken off by a previous owner I suppose) Sun visors Front Bumperettes Thank you for the information about the axles I will need to do some research on this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksprat Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 17 hours ago, ruxy said: ps btw , pity you went direct to the RLC at Deepcut. I know sometimes much is missing from records. In fact I know of a --KB-- Lightweight (abt. same age) much was missing. The owner did another history search using FMW (actually I understand a bloke named Fletcher). He managed to turn out the lot inc. the 'hiden-history' . I received a copy for perusal & to file , ISTR 18 A4 pages worth inc. all he previously obtained from the RLC Museum. Much was 'generic' military info. but good if not already a Ex-MOD Landie owner. FMW seems to have a bit extra ability and a few £ cheaper LoL I don't know Fletcher , I understand he is Geof. Fletcher who was co-author of a good Ex-MOD 'Series' LR book abt. 3 years ago - worth having - abt. £18 , worth having as a set of spark-plugs and 1 gall of a good engine oil will cost you more.. Thanks for this I am going to drop him an email now here it is in case anyone else wants it freemil@btinternet.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksprat Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 17 hours ago, ruxy said: CompOrdDepVeh Knew I had seen it before , read through this lot :- http://lightweightlandrover.blogspot.co.uk/ Sorry to bore you with Lightweight propaganda - make life easy and increase your fleet number. Well done for remembering this!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksprat Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 Coincidentally I also received a reply from my FOI request (the email for this if anyone is searching for it is cio-foi@mod.uk) The response is attached. Does this mean that it went to Hong Kong with the Gurkhas? FOI.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 38 minutes ago, Jacksprat said: Coincidentally I also received a reply from my FOI request (the email for this if anyone is searching for it is cio-foi@mod.uk) The response is attached. Does this mean that it went to Hong Kong with the Gurkhas? FOI.pdf Yes, most certainly went to Hong Kong , the 'Lowland' should be easy for some - I would be guessing a Scottish Regiment below Edinburgh / Glasgow but will be wrong on that. I think 'Lowland' is more a term used after the amalgamation of famous regiments - a bit like 'rifles'. Some people take a interest and are expert, know all the UIN and how / when thechoose files... Click to choosey can change. I only know the more basic abbr. etc. - more interested in the hardware than the software LoL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 52 minutes ago, Jacksprat said: Well done for remembering this!! Yes, with such a grand title - you would think you see it lots , not the case , never managed to work out the actual location on the map. In a way it sounds a bit like it is a 'material pool' on the ranges in Canada - but that would have shown on the FOI reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 59 minutes ago, Jacksprat said: Ruxy, thank you very much for your incredible help. My land rover does have: Bonnet lock hasp, Pedal rubbers on brake & Clutch (not throttle) Aux. switch panel at centre of plastic dash Towing D Rings Reflectors are on the body panels and have been carelessly half painted over by IRR paint! It doesn't have: Ammeter, where would that be? Chamois leather swivel housing gaiters (although they may have been taken off by a previous owner I suppose) Sun visors Front Bumperettes Thank you for the information about the axles I will need to do some research on this Your aux. panel will be slightly different to mine because - it should have the BRAKE test switch or more probably just a small oblong panel as auto. test on ignition, similar panel - should have IIRC for FOG GUARD. The ammeter would be in the centre of the plastic lower dash , there will be a pressed indent, that in the civvy world was cut out to fit a car radio. You may have a 2" hole ! Possibly your later truck was fitted with a heavier capacity Lucas ACR alternator. You should be able with your late CL to neglect use of the Optional Parts Catalogue for electrical , as such yours will be 'time-line' as built - I would have to check by sifting the pages of Parts Catalogue - Part No. RTC9841 CE JUNE 1988. Just looked at the log book for my CL , 07GN11 Shortly after I obtained from CMA site @ Maltby near Stockton , I worked through the front axle changing seals, I am certain the balls are fitted with gaiters, no note of me fitting new - so I would just have rubbed Vaseline in and re-fitted them. I am almost certain mine has sun visors , they could have been fitted locally. Quite certain mine did not have front bumperettes , some did so probably fitted locally. ========= The Gurkhas did use lots of Lightweights , so your CL may have been as often used - around Catterick , always one outside the cop-shop , I think the last was a KC or KD , it has Serck pressed 'Security Plates' (as some late S3 did). There were always a few on 'driver-training' run , the common one to a cafe at West Auckland, (in later years ISTR these were not on the classic MOD reg. plates , Serck type used). Mine was Ex-TA RMP (Stockton) , check the galve. screen at passenger side , normally drilled 2 holes for fitting a angle short strut for blue lamp. You can pick up at relatively low cost aluminium MILITARY POLICE plates. As a show vehicle , something like a PYE Cambridge radio and that is about it - nothing top $ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksprat Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 All very good stuff, thanks a million. I have attached a picture of the dash. The round silver button is a bit of a mystery! Any ideas what that was for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 (edited) Round silver button , give me a clue - where should I be looking ? I see you do have the small oblong warning panels for BRAKE CHECK + FOG GUARD. Looks OK , you will have to look after it , you don't see many S3 at all on road now, late (upgraded) 88" always were rare , so a late S3 Ex-MOD is ever rarer ! I have taken some pics of pics (14/2/1984) - so it was 5yrs-1month old - the day I purchased. I will have to get son to upload them on SlickPick later. You can't check for chrome-ball gaiters & I don't think you can see sun-visors , but you can't see them on L'wt 19FM65 (on same pic) & I defo. fitted them early 1980 soon after I obtained it from Ruddington. Strange they dropped the ammeter from spec. Edited February 20, 2018 by ruxy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksprat Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 Sorry, I hope that there is an arrow on this picture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksprat Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 It doesn't seem to do anything! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Jacksprat said: It doesn't seem to do anything! I will have to consult my civvy 'User Instructions' - I don't think there was a military version , must be the disabled ejection seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvinthemartian Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Could be a blank fitting to replace/hide something previously removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 btw. One thing I forgot to mention. The Lightweight hood was 'standardized' - the 12 volt vehicles new at Solihull received a FFR hood (extra side details for antenna mounts sliders/cables). The 88" CL was factory fitted with a civvy basic hood , so stitched on above the fuel filler cap was a black PVC oblong patch abt. 10" x 6". This was to protect the canvas against the filler nozzle - probably more important if diesel than petrol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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