antarmike Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 The plate drops nicely into the Locating ring, this time and the play is minimal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 There is one position where it is a little tight, (I mean if one lug is okay in either of two slots, it is slightly tight fitted into the third.) But overall I think I can go with it this time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younggun Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) glad to see they got it right this time mike hope the refit goes well . Edited February 23, 2009 by younggun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 I have left the flywheel off at the moment, so I can do a trial build up on the ground, before I do it for real. Oh, I have got the Input shaft pilot bearing back in the crank also. Forgot to mention that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisg Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Good luck Mike lets hope they got it right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted February 24, 2009 Author Share Posted February 24, 2009 They have lost the hardened steel buttons the adjuster rods that position the intermediate plate when it releases, are supposed to push against.!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Mike sorry you are having all this agro but this the sort of thing i come across all the time.good job its not 1939. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted February 24, 2009 Author Share Posted February 24, 2009 I have found some silver steel at the back of a cupboard so I am going to have to make them myself sometime. Got today off work, my insides are playing up, but providing I stay in sight of a toilet, I should be OK....(not that you need to know that) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croc Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 doesn't sound like a boilersuit day then Mike.... glad to see things are moving in the right direction with the Antar though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted February 24, 2009 Author Share Posted February 24, 2009 I am not in my LongJohns either.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted February 24, 2009 Author Share Posted February 24, 2009 Buttons made. and hardened, tempered and fitted to intermediate plate. and checking the operating (adjusting) pins fall in the right place relative to locating ring flange. Good forward progress.. If only my R's would settle I would be a happy man today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrtcrowther Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Best make sure your bums back in order before you lift that lot back in. All that straining..... you might blow an o-ring!:rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Mike, I think all this trouble would have given me the sh*ts too, best of luck, hope to see you back on the road this Summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrtcrowther Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted March 1, 2009 Author Share Posted March 1, 2009 No pictures today, but the flywheel went on this morning, and was checked for run out with a DTI. And I now have made (modified) the clutch aligning tool I used at the time of the engine change, into something a little more user friendly. This afternoon has seen the locating ring, intermediate plate, two driven plates, and the Clutch cover go back onto the antar. Though not in that order!! I want to run up the engine, to check the balance of this lot, before I lift the gearbox back into place. I don't think there is any chance of the Clutch plates moving if I run the engine up, without the splines of the gearbox input shaft, going through them. The clutch should be under full pressure and hold them regardless, but there is a creeping doubt as to the wisdom of running the engine at this stage. Oh and the interediate plate release stop screws have been adjusted and locked off. Equally I don't want to put the gearbox back on and then find that Marton Dumpers have messed up the balancing...I think I will sleep on this one.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 No chance of fixing your aligning tool in place during the test run to eliminate clutch plate movement? Appreciate it'd have to be very well fixed to avoid flying out and damaging expensive new components. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 On second thoughts I think I'd just run it as is then check the tool slides in again afterwards. Then you know there's been no movement. The clutch plates can't move enough to cause damage can they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrtcrowther Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Ive run alot of big engines up with no splines in the clutch plate (some of them just sat on the floor vibrating round the shed!) with no problems. However your clutch is a big old lump. Mabey a short run at low revs first and recheck alignment then build up to full chat in stages. If you have a balance problem its most likley to occur at a certain number of revs. Seems like a lot of work to pull the box out if it is bad:cry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted March 2, 2009 Author Share Posted March 2, 2009 Trouble is, i was stuck for space to get the clutch cover back on past the end of the aligning tool, so I cut the tool off, welded a nut on the end, and made up a screwed shaft to go back into it. When the cover went on I just had an inch of the tool, sticking beyond the rear friction plate. With the cover on the tool was 3 inches inside the clutch. I then screwed my threaded end back into the stub of a tool, and pulled it out. As a result of the cutting welding etc, on the tool, I am not sure that is anything like balanced, which is why I want to leave it out of the equation..... I also have a tool if I force it back in again, that could come apart as a withdraw it, and I would have to strip back again to get the parts out.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrtcrowther Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Mmm:undecided:mmm..... See your problem.. Bit of a possible no win situation. Run the engine without the shaft in and risk having to strip the clutch out a re center it.. or put it all back together and find you truck falls to bits at full throttle and have to take it all to bits again.:embarrassed: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Mike, Given your luck so far with this project, I'm not surprised your looking to someone else to make the decision, on how to go. Not sure I'm upto the reponsibilty though sorry. :noyay: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted March 8, 2009 Author Share Posted March 8, 2009 (edited) Ran the engine up Sat morning, only to 1500, no vibration. Gearbox went back onto bell-housing Sat afternoon, I couldn't manage a whole day today, as I promised to take down a tree for someone, but this afternoon, put Air assist clutch cyinder back on Chassis, set legths of rods, adjusted free pedal movement, and Clutch brake clearance. I have lashed an air supply to the Clutch reaction valve, to test that all is working, and I have the first section of exhaust back on (Turbo, to rear engine of bell housing adaptor ring. Clutch seems heavier than I remeber it but Air assist is definitely working. I am putting the extra effort to get the pedal down, being the result of the brand new pressure plate coil springs. I hope to do a bit most nights this week, but that may be unrealistic. I am averaging 10 1/4 hour days at the moment building chain trenchers. I have one almost finished ( no 17) and another one to build (no 18) then I have another batch of 4 or 5 to follow. Doesn't leave a lot of energy at the end of the day for Antaring. Edited March 8, 2009 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younggun Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 glad to see things are couming togeather mike :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikeymatt Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 nice to hear it going back toughter ok:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted March 8, 2009 Author Share Posted March 8, 2009 Yes thanks folks, I reckon this has been a good weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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