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PT76 :dunno:

 

 

Soviet equivalent of Scorpion. A very fast, amphibious light tank. ISTR it was out of service by the time I left 15/19H in 1982.

 

Though obviously not as fast as Scorpion, listed in the Guinness Book of Records as the world's fastest tank, even though we all know it's a tracked armoured car.

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ISTR its name came from:

 

P = amphibious

T = tank

76 = calibre of main armament in mm (though I now have a nagging doubt that its gun might have been 73mm in calibre ... grrr. I certainly STR there was a BMP variant with a 73mm gun, possibly BMP1976).

 

All Commie kit was thus named by NATO (usually bearing no relation to what they called it). Last year we had a Russian gap year student and I used to give him a lift. If I talked to him about, for example, a BRDM2, he just looked blankly at me.

 

Once you learn all these, recognition gets rather easier. Still used to bug me when asked to identify whether for example a BTR60 family vehicle was a BTR60PA or BTR60PB.

 

A year or two back I was sent a series of pictures from Afghanistan in which the US commentator described the subject vehicle as a BMP. It was a tracked vehicle so it most certainly was not a BMP. I had to stop and think about it because the BTR50 series was tracked and the BTR60 series was eight-wheeled. Eventually I taught myself that you cannot have five road wheels on a wheeled vehicle, so BTR50 must be tracked (but ISTR it had seven road wheels per side) but you can have six road wheels, so BTR60 must be wheeled (even though ISTR it had eight road wheels.

 

And it gets no easier as senility creeps in.

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The Scorpions in the middle pic are Scimitars.

 

 

Reminds me of the time the great Polish Air Force ace went to give a lecture in a girls' school.

 

"Ja we were flying at 10,000 feet when we were jumped by a gaggle of German Fokkers."

 

Cue much tittering among the girls.

 

Headmistress butts in, "Girls, let me remind you that a Fokker was a German aeroplane." She turns to the Pole and asks, "Please continue."

 

"Ja anyway ... well these Fokkers were in Messerschmidts."

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Spent many a hour, teaching CVRT how to skate.

 

Baz.

 

 

I joined Command in BAOR in the Autumn of 1977. That was a cold winter (weren't they all?). One of the ACV commanders owned a bright yellow Mark 1 Escort. The throttle cable snapped. He set the carb to a fast idle and drove to work changing speed simply by changing up and down. One morning, too cold to work on the Saracens, we all piled into the Escort and drove round and round the ice-covered race track that was the back square between B and C Squadron hangars and the various QMs' blocks on one side and Command Troop, A Sqn and the colocated R Sigs Task Force signals troop hangars and the officers mess on the other. It was on a slope and as I say thick with ice.

 

But Jock was having great fun spinning this constant-velocity Escort, while the rest of us started to turn our hair white. We decided maybe it wasn't too cold to work on the Sarries after all (when we were allowed out for NAAFI break).

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There used to be a skid pan at Brands hatch. great fun. A mate of mine's Farther was a London transport driving instructors when they spun a Routemaster. The procedure was the driver put his hands in his laps, the instructor reached into the cab spun the wheel let go and the driver took over to correct the skid. While doing this one day the bus fell over, heading on its side at a high rate of knots it finally came to rest just short of the Chief Instructors door. The story goes CI opened the door viewed the 2 white faced participants sighed and said 'George, you know my door is always open to you, BUT leave the ******* bus outside!'

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A year or two back I was sent a series of pictures from Afghanistan in which the US commentator described the subject vehicle as a BMP. It was a tracked vehicle so it most certainly was not a BMP. I had to stop and think about it because the BTR50 series was tracked and the BTR60 series was eight-wheeled. Eventually I taught myself that you cannot have five road wheels on a wheeled vehicle, so BTR50 must be tracked (but ISTR it had seven road wheels per side) but you can have six road wheels, so BTR60 must be wheeled (even though ISTR it had eight road wheels.

 

Errrr......

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the BMP (Bronevaya Maschina Piekhota - Russian for "Combat Vehicle of the Infantry") series WERE tracked!!

 

BMP-1_2.jpg

 

This replaced the BTR-50 in service and worked alongside the BTR-60.

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