Rick W Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 If a "friend of mine" was considering adding a Dodge to his family what would be the better bet a WC51 or WC52? In terms of ownership and size practicality etc? Price difference between both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abn deuce Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 the only basic difference is that the WC52 has a winch so the steering may be a bit harder at manovering speeds while parking details are WC51 weight 5645 gross weight 7445 produced 123,541 WC52 weight 5940 gross weight 7740 produced 59,124 < 5000lbs braden winch> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick W Posted November 21, 2007 Author Share Posted November 21, 2007 They both use the same engine I take it? Is it a 2 litre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodge Deep Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Both use the same engine T214 6cyl sidevalve The only consideration between the two really is the length difference. I was adamant I wanted a wc52 when i started looking but wound up with a 51... as it transpired the storage facility i was using was so tight that a winch model wouldn't fit in anyway... unless i left the doors open :-D There'll be most the specs you could need here http://ww2dodge.com/wiki/Overview Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abn deuce Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 i didnt see these details there, cast iron block and head .displacement 230 cubic inches bore and stroke 3.25x4.625 compression ratio 6.7:1 brake horsepower 92 at 3200 rpm four main bearings. mechanical valve lifters carburetor zenith model 29. top speed 54 mph fuel cap.30 gallons US. range 240 miles same engine specs for WC51 -52-56-57-53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEnfield Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 If a "friend of mine" was considering adding a Dodge to his family what would be the better bet a WC51 or WC52? In terms of ownership and size practicality etc? Price difference between both. :whistle: winch would be usefull for moving 'dead' jeeps and morris'es, eh, Rick. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick W Posted November 22, 2007 Author Share Posted November 22, 2007 :whistle: winch would be usefull for moving 'dead' jeeps and morris'es, eh, Rick. ;-) Some people are just plain spiteful! :cry: "My friend" just wanted something instantly driveable while the others were rising from the ashes, so to speak! See theres an MW on ebay at the mo.But this one is in quite good nick! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 The T-214 engine is 230.8 cu inch 3'888 cc give or take a couple. I would go for a plain vanilla WC51, unless you have a desperate longing for a winch it is just extra expensive complex metal. As to the engines reliability, the Russians copied it and kept making it till the 1990's. It became known as perpetual motion. Give Russian engineering its due, when something needs to be engineered it is to the top quality. They wouldn't have kept building it if it didn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEnfield Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Some people are just plain spiteful! :cry: "My friend" just wanted something instantly driveable while the others were rising from the ashes, so to speak! See theres an MW on ebay at the mo.But this one is in quite good nick! :-D ;-) MW looks to be in good nick,............thats a dam good price its at, at the mo, as well. Has "your Friend", :whistle: decided on winch ( :tongue:) to go for, then ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 With MVs on E-prey my question is always, 'why are they not on the specialist forums or mags?' thats where your serious buyers will be. :dunno: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick W Posted November 22, 2007 Author Share Posted November 22, 2007 ;-) MW looks to be in good nick,............thats a dam good price its at, at the mo, as well. Has "your Friend", :whistle: decided on winch ( :tongue:) to go for, then ?? "My friend" would probably go for one without a winch, but is currently considering the implications of telling his better half he has spent some money destined for a new kitchen on a runabout! :shake: :whistle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joris Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Yeah that's the most difficult part of buying a vehicle, telling the other half... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEnfield Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 With MVs on E-prey my question is always, 'why are they not on the specialist forums or mags?' thats where your serious buyers will be. :dunno: Mmmmmmmm, Good question; I recognise it from a pic posted on in another thread,........(airshow, one, I think.) Maybe's its more instant,...........and poss seller has had no interest frim add in mil veh press. :dunno: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakman Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Good question, Tony B. Just waved goodbye to my Dodge WC-7, sold via Milweb, up north to Durham area on a C.A.R.S. and Motorsport dedicated curtainsider. I was well impressed with their kit, kneeling rear suspension and great long integral ramps, so even a Ferrari with nil nose-clearance can be loaded easily. Guys last load was £1m-worth of Bentley, and as this was a back-load organised by the buyer, I cant give you prices etc. Just to say it was travelling totally enclosed for about 240 miles, and I was well impressed. (They do a lot for Morgan, which is at Malvern near here.) Sorry, post drift! Never understood why vehicles appear on e-bay rather than Milweb or other dedicated places. Could just be that there is a whole collection of MV's existing in a "parallel universe" to ours, all out there, but with owners who for whatever reason don't wish to participate in places like this and CMV, MMI, and Milweb. I guess the impossible census of EXACTLY what is squirrelled away behind closed doors in these islands of ours would shake everyone rigid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Hey Dakman, that transport does sound to have drool quality. Top of my want list is a bonneted Scania, if the engine isn't out in front whats the point? And a low loader kneeling trailer, with 50 ton winch on the front. The recovery guys that do the busses have one. It is licencsed to carry a fully loaded Artic and trailer. Now all I need is about £300,000 :dunno: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakman Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Couldn't agree more, Tony B. While buying/using/selling over a dozen delectable heavies over the past 18 years, my (now) wife has often wistfully opined that she "prefers the ones with long bonnets". Now, what makes me think I may live to regret posting this???!!! :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 So your going for the three engined turbo model next then? :-D At least from a passengers point of view if you can see the padddles going round you know the engine is still working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakman Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 OK, while we're here then......... "If progressive forward movement of the throttle lever does not produce:- A) More noise B) More wind C) More vibration... Then, and only then, can it be safely assumed that the engine has stopped."....(from a very early open cockpit instrument placard, I kid you not!). Also:- Q) How do you know when you have landed with the gear up? A) When it takes full power to taxy! There, see, having NO MV for the first time in 18 years is already getting to me, and its only been gone 5 hours!!! :cry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Just as well most passengers don't know about about aircrew humour. :whistle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willyslancs Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 we bought the wc51 when we had the choice (only cos the winch wouldnt let us shut the garage door at the time,very tight squeeze) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 They both use the same engine I take it? Is it a 2 litre? 236.6 cu inch, roughly 4 litre!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 :whistle: winch would be usefull for moving 'dead' jeeps and morris'es, eh, Rick. ;-) Done that!! Three in a row:-D Didn't need a winch, the vehicle will do it on its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon_M Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Always, always buy the truck with the winch. It'll cost more to buy, slightly more to maintain, it will be slightly noisier (unless the PTO was fitted exactly right with the correct shimmed backlash to prevent the idler gear from droning) and be a little heavier to steer. But... it'll have a winch :-D The winch trucks look better, sell for more, attract more positive attention, and insane ordinary drivers are much less inclined to argue with them (the front at least) Do check you are getting a real winch truck though. It is entirely possible to weld the winch onto a non-winch chassis, and that is very useful if done well but worth a little less. Sometimes people do half a job and don't bother with the correct (different) radiator side panels and tow hooks. Right at the end of the war a winch conversion kit was made up so the last batch of WC 6 x 6 trucks were all 'non-winch' chassis, some of which were equipped with bolt-on winch extensions which survived post-war as options on the Power Wagon. I used a set of these to mount a winch on my WC53, and they have the added atraction that if you ever need to get the truck back to factory stock condition you just unbolt them. Gordon (four Dodges and one honorary Dodge in the garage at the minute) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commander Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 My Command Car has the winch fitted and to be quite honest I think they look "mean" and say to car drivers beware I'm coming Commander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I'm going to breack ranks! :nono: The winch is just extra hassle, Dodge's are perfectly able to do anything asked of them without 'Bling'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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