ruxy Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 Verified colour photographs when in service are the best evidence - esp. NI , even if you have a good album - you can't say some adornment bolt-on was never done or paint finish never used. It could be over several years time line there was cross-pollination of Snatch items on Series Rovers - that could be proven with the right photograph. It's not wise to judge show glam-jobs because you would be in the wrong if positive evidence is turned out , in any case the vehicle owner needs just to say he is demonstrating what was available in time line but using a single vehicle rather than placing offending items on a stall rather than the dropped tail-gate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10FM68 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 6 hours ago, LarryH57 said: I have decided to remove the faded union flag stickers as they were obviously applied after the Lwt was cast, by 7th Para RHA. I think plain and simple and realistic is probably best. I'm therefore having second thoughts about fitting an extra red NATO tow hook on the front bumper, a front ammo box and the '58 Webbing, attached to the side and every wing, plus get rid of the idea of 3 metre wip aerials with union flags attached from the wings and side of the tilt, like so many realistic vehicles I see at MV shows. The Pegasus emblem on a maroon background was taken off years ago, but were Lwts ever used by Easy Company, of 506th PIR, of the 101st Div? No, you need to go for a typical example, something run-of-the-mill. Like this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 28 minutes ago, 10FM68 said: No, you need to go for a typical example, something run-of-the-mill. Like this... It's a pity I can't expand the photograph to close study the details , would a L.A.D. actually have a armourer ? The ones I observed seemed to have a more than adequate example of Rover exhaust systems in the tub and that's all. The snatch-block on wing top seems a little over-capacity. He must have been NI based as the door top(s) anti-brick protection screen seems genuine Snatch ? To me it has more annoyance than a line up of several supposed WW2 Jeeps all with a front towing recovery 'A' frame - that nobody seems to adverse comment. I suppose if you must have a bumper mounted vice - then you can't coil a 2" dia. de riguer recovery rope - which may be of more use, but I can't recall that being an in-service thing. ISTR abt. 1980 the Army were testing KERR with Rovers . I understand red painted wings for bomb-disposal , at least now I am aware white = armourer. Strange - no amber or blue ? beacon or commanders lamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul connor Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 1 hour ago, 10FM68 said: No, you need to go for a typical example, something run-of-the-mill. Like this... Mad Max category runner up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryH57 Posted April 10 Author Share Posted April 10 Has that Lwt got a civi cab, with a trunkated tilt behind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10FM68 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 9 hours ago, LarryH57 said: Has that Lwt got a civi cab, with a trunkated tilt behind? It has all sorts, but, yes, that was the idea, it seems. There is also some sort of recovery/lifting device along the rear offside and the weight of the bonnet with all the accoutrements is such that the designer has fitted a winding device to lift it! It is probably the most horrible 'improvement' of a Lightweight I have ever seen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10FM68 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 11 hours ago, ruxy said: The ones I observed seemed to have a more than adequate example of Rover exhaust systems in the tub and that's all. Actually, you're on the right lines: to be truly accurate there out to be a tractor-style exhaust pipe sticking up through the bonnet. Oh... and a lot more aerials! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 7 hours ago, 10FM68 said: It has all sorts, but, yes, that was the idea, it seems. There is also some sort of recovery/lifting device along the rear offside and the weight of the bonnet with all the accoutrements is such that the designer has fitted a winding device to lift it! It is probably the most horrible 'improvement' of a Lightweight I have ever seen! I wondered what that thing was on the rear, lift & carry instead of a underlift it seems - I suppose the tubes on the roof are some sort of jib extension ? , one may laugh at the two sticks with balls (steering aids for anti-collision ? ) , however some Dutch LWT have them on much longer poles. All in all , must be the very best photograph of the very worst , unless someone knows different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Close runner-up to the L.A.D. Armourer - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/335189147648?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20180105095853%26meid%3D392663fec2604aeb9f4eea63a9e32b9a%26pid%3D100903%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D20%26sd%3D335189147648%26itm%3D335189147648%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2332490&_trksid=p2332490.c100903.m5276&fbclid=IwAR1G_kUQBa-mrUEbQtdLE10hfvdueIojvEgDg2NBwHtHEoCvrrlCAjxd3fk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonb Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Usual story, aerials but no radios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 46 minutes ago, gordonb said: Usual story, aerials but no radios. The number of antennas is inversely proportional to the amount of working radio equipment and with a flag on the top even less chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10FM68 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Yes, that is truly horrible. Nice rubies, though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryH57 Posted May 1 Author Share Posted May 1 Ruxy, I would be so very grateful to 'pick your brains' on paint used on Military Land Rover wheels out of Solihull? I have five 'new' sand blasted 231601 wheels that are to be painted, so I guess Land Rover sprayed them for my Lwt with NATO Green on both sides and in between which won't be seen? Mine were actually sand yellow before blasting. The replacement wheels on my Lwt are possibly civi, and the inner surface is a combo of black and mud and rust. Thank you so very much Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 5 hours ago, LarryH57 said: Ruxy, I would be so very grateful to 'pick your brains' on paint used on Military Land Rover wheels out of Solihull? I have five 'new' sand blasted 231601 wheels that are to be painted, so I guess Land Rover sprayed them for my Lwt with NATO Green on both sides and in between which won't be seen? Mine were actually sand yellow before blasting. The replacement wheels on my Lwt are possibly civi, and the inner surface is a combo of black and mud and rust. Thank you so very much Larry Land Rover supplied rims - can be supplied finish painted , the colour code is a Suffix. Suffix P are primer finish a sort of dark brown / black - it's only a £cheap holding primer so best to finish a.s.a.p. Even civvy 231601 van be stamped with F.V. No. most are D marked (Dunlop) but I think GKN made. I have some 'aftermarket' under another name & made in Denmark (I checked a few years ago & it was a GKN subsidiary). Aftermarket - the new style for Tubeless c/w bead hump - the ones I have (aftermarket) are made in Italy. I suppose Solihull still supply D logo branded GKN. I used to get mine blased f.o.c. however not possible since I retired. If bad rust - I needle scale , otherwise twisted knot brush & P40 production paper. Then 1 coat of RED Oxide , when through dried a second coat of GREY Oxide (grey is a better undercoating colour for DBG or NATO Green finish). Certainly shot blast & a good paint finish is much more durable than factory finish. Colour finish - I normally brush 2 coats of TRACTOL first coat normally some OD - easier to check for holidays , sometimes sprayed with a double header - normally on sound old colour for refresh - rubbed with P500 / Scotchbrite green or red. In recent weeks (rain,cold,wind) - shed job I knocked up to save back-breaking work . I have various turntable sizes for such as a front wing / door , now with outriggers - more stable for 7.50x16 & rubber shock-absorbing feet (LR engine mounts) for when needle-scaling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryH57 Posted May 10 Author Share Posted May 10 Thanks Ruxy, I cannot believe I have owned my Lwt for 20 years, almost to the day. I just wish I had more time to use it. I guess it will rain all summer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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