grey on top Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I'm restoring a gun rack for my jeep and there seems to be an extra bracket that bolts to the butt end of it. In the photos the webbing pads are still covered over with masking tape from the spray process. Does anyone recognise the bracket? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67burwood Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) Unusual bracket, does it fix to the rack or slot in? it looks like an upright mounting bracket, maybe gmc etc... Edited December 28, 2020 by 67burwood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey on top Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 Hi, If you look at the second photo it bolts up tight against the end of the rack, I left a small gap so you could clearly see the bracket. The 1st photo shows the bracket in close up. The right angle bit that pivots is actually leather covered in leather (at the moment covered in masking tape) so I think it supports the gun/weapon. The bracket seems to extend the length of weapon it can hold? I think I am correct in saying that the standard jeep gun rack holds an M1, Thompson or Garrand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67burwood Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 French Hotchkiss adapter ?? Is the rack an original? I’ve recently purchased what was advertised as an original gun rack, it’s still in the post at the moment so I can’t compare anything , from what I’ve read in other blogs it’s difficult to tell the difference between original, French and repo as they aren’t any markings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlymb Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 French ones are marked on the inside of the sight protector, at least the one I had a few years ago was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Hall Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I suspect it could be an adaptor to install another type of gun in to the standard rack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Hall Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 It’s mentioned on the G as an adapter for smaller weapons. https://forums.g503.com/viewtopic.php?t=172077 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey on top Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 Thanks Chris. At last, someone else has one. The only difference on mine is that it has leather and not webbing as a pad so am still wondering whether it might be post war. I can also read the part number on mine. At least it sounds like they were used in WW2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Hall Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 That number almost looks like an NSN which were introduced in 1974 I think. However 05 hasn’t been used and is reserved for the USA and also there’s a number missing if it were. So it must be some sort of FSN but 8070 doesn’t exist (it must have done in the past though). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey on top Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 What are NSN and FSN numbers? What do the letters stand for? If this number is post 1974 would they still be making small weapons adapters? Were the ww2 style gun racks still being used? Sorry loads of questions but you seem to be in the know! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Hall Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 An NSN is a NATO Stock Number or National Stock Number. This was an adaption of the FSN or Federal Stock Number which dates back to the 1930s. Lots of equipment from the 40s have NSNs because the kit was still in use in the 70s and 80s. The US may have stopped using some of the kit but other countries continued to use it and the US would provide spares under contract. The Mexicans and I think Argentinians still use Halftracks and some spare parts are still provided by the US. They themselves aren’t in NATO but as the US is, the parts have an NSN. Another good example is France and Greece, they used the Willys MB for decades after the US had replaced their stock and the large amount of spares in the US system were codified for sales/foreign aid. Bren .303 LMGs were codified even though the UK replaced them in the 60s. All because many nations still used them (Republic or Ireland, India, Greece etc), even Australian made Brens were given a British NSN because the design was from Enfield. There’s much more to it and I’m no expert. I only have a basic knowledge from using NSNs daily but the historical detail is something I’ve only picked up in civvy street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielblack Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 On 12/29/2020 at 4:38 AM, grey on top said: I'm restoring a gun rack for my jeep and there seems to be an extra bracket that bolts to the butt end of it. In the photos the webbing pads are still covered over with masking tape from the spray process. Does anyone recognise the bracket? thanks Casino online is a great hobby for everyone, lots of fun and big wins that's what is waiting for you if you choose your legal in Canada casino here casino-legit.com and join this amazing game. I can't recognize it, but really curious in a final result. Waiting for photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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