ukinusa Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 1975 24v FFR 109 - the lighting relay cooked and caused much smoke and excitement while way out in the desert in Utah ! Luckily I was with other LR's who helped me back in the dark. During the excitement I managed to pull all the wires off the relay and so I am not sure of which goes where for each 'spade' - is there an idiots guide somewhere to help me rebuild ? -I have another 24v spare relay - its marked - looking down at it: C1 W2 as a pair In the centre C2 and at top right - W1 My wiring diagram is so small in the manual as to be useless...and i don't want to risk cooking this unit ... Any help much appreciated Steve brit@infowest.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 The bugging A****** on these is the head light wire that goes from the side of the switch. Post picture and I'll look at the big coloured diagram we got at the yard for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 1975 24v FFR 109 - the lighting relay cooked and caused much smoke and excitement while way out in the desert in Utah ! ......... Hi Steve.. welcome to the forum, maybe you could tell s a bit about yourelf &vehicles in the Introductions & Welcome section :-D http://www.hmvf.co.uk/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=38&board=19.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukinusa Posted October 8, 2007 Author Share Posted October 8, 2007 Cooked relay at top with fried terminal at lower left... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukinusa Posted October 8, 2007 Author Share Posted October 8, 2007 Wires open to me - black clearly earth/ground .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 Thick brown is main power to the lights. Blue red is main beam goes to connection on side of switch. the relays look the infra red relays . they can be cut out of cicuit quite easily, and should be. having recently spent 4 1/2 hours dealing with such problems on my 101 i know the feeling. give me till tommorow night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukinusa Posted October 9, 2007 Author Share Posted October 9, 2007 Ok I think I got it sorted...well it hasn't burst into smoke yet ;-) Seems to me that W1and W2 spades are the relay activation and they work when you put power across either - but I stayed with W2 as ground as that appears to be the one previously. Load goes between the spades marked C - again it seems to function either way. What confused me as well was that the relay was dead until I noted the power feed comes from the Infra Red switch... as soon as the battery cut off switch is in the "on position" ... (a previous electrical short made this seem good idea to install - which proved a great investment and probably saved the truck ) then the relay is active immediately - regardless of ignition switch position. (But power was not there until the Infra red switch and been worked on and off a few times - I suspect the short fused its terminals a little...or lack of use.... Anyway - I have lights etc [ftp][/ftp]...thanks to all who looked and commented... Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Great Steve. The joys of military land rover wirinf. Forgrt the IR relays you don't need them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 A useful guide is that on these relays: Windings are W1 & W2 Contacts are C1 & C2 Just watch out when replacing relays, sometimes relay contacts are normally closed rather than normally open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukinusa Posted October 9, 2007 Author Share Posted October 9, 2007 Thanks for support - regarding the IR - I guess you are right but living in Utah its illegal to bring alcohol over the State border eg: from Nevada into Utah ...so that function might help in certain "situations" . :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Steve it's obsolete. We can do you a good deal on night imaging and low light devices though. :evil: the Ferret guys on the site will tell you buy one of those, fast cross country, and bulletproof. The ballard of Landy and Ferret :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukinusa Posted October 9, 2007 Author Share Posted October 9, 2007 Having just become a US cirizen I can just see the headlines now !!! And Home Land Security would just love it - time to get their toys out too... mind you they like jeeps and we all know that LT's are The Official Recovery Vehicle for all things like Jeeps and H2's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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