Fuel consumptions.

[Tony B]

Just aquired a pile of Feild Service pocket book pamphlets. This is fromPamphlet No9 dated 1939 Supply and replinishment in the Field.

Does anyone have any idea what the Lubricant grades are about? Note the bottom entry Petrol Electric, what vehicles would these be?

 

[TooTallMike]

Tillings-Stevens searchlight units? although I'd have thought they'd have been obsolete by then :dunno:

[Tony B]

Hi Mate, yes that was the only one I could think off. Also mentions Dragons, were these the carrier type vehicles? By the way been on a Gondola yet? :-D

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[LeeEnfield]

Hi Mate, yes that was the only one I could think off. Also mentions Dragons, were these the carrier type vehicles? By the way been on a Gondola yet? :-D

Part 2

 

 

 

Hi Tony,..........think they were.

W&Tracks had an article on them, I believe;..................I'll have a look when I get a chance.

[Tony B]

Hi Lee I notice the Dragons are divided into Light and Heavy, so I'm guessing the Heavy must be artillery tractors. the dates on these pamphlets are just prior to WW2 literally by months. they apear to be issued on a weekly basis, similar i suppose to the current bullitin system except no sell by date.

[LeeEnfield]

Tillings-Stevens searchlight units? although I'd have thought they'd have been obsolete by then :dunno:

 

 

 

Was talking to the owner of one of these vehicles at Brenzett, a while ago, his was ( from the little he'd been able to find out,) used as searchlight in london area,during blitz, he thinks operated by ATS lassies.

 

Interesting concept,...........and vehicle, not seen another one in preservation, and being used.

[Tony B]

There is one about. I saw it at Selinge some years back. Light still works and by did it light up the sky.

[Richard Farrant]

 

Was talking to the owner of one of these vehicles at Brenzett, a while ago, his was ( from the little he'd been able to find out,) used as searchlight in london area,during blitz, he thinks operated by ATS lassies.

 

 

 

That would be Bill, he has two TS19 searchlight trucks, I think they date from around 1936, but a later model, TS20, came out about 1939/40, there was one of these laying at Ashford many years ago, but went to preservation, by whom I do not know because it has never surfaced to my knowledge.

[Richard Farrant]

Does anyone have any idea what the Lubricant grades are about?

 

Tony,

 

Here are the grades of oil for those codes in your pamphlet;

 

C600 SAE140 gear oil

M800 equivalent to Essolube Heavy Gear oil

M265 SAE50 engine oil

M220 SAE40 engine oil

M120 SAE20 engine oil (used in diesels)

Vac BB Mobiloil Heavy engine oil (civ. grade)

[LeeEnfield]

Hi Lee I notice the Dragons are divided into Light and Heavy, so I'm guessing the Heavy must be artillery tractors. the dates on these pamphlets are just prior to WW2 literally by months. they apear to be issued on a weekly basis, similar i suppose to the current bullitin system except no sell by date.

 

 

Tony,

I know in his series on British Tanks,David Fletcher does mention them quite a bit.

This is the series he did for HMSO, of which I've pt 1 and they are not mentioned in it.

(have just googled dragon artillert tractor - results as follows.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artillery_tractor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vickers_6-Ton

[Tony B]

Thanks guys, must stop picking up bits of junk to read, look where it leads :dunno:

[Richard Farrant]

Andy,

 

Here is a good picture of a Light Dragon Mk3;

http://www.jedsite.info/tractors/delta/dragon_series/light-dragon-mk3/ld3-intro.html#top

[Mark]

Link does not work Richard

[Richard Farrant]

Link does not work Richard

 

 

Mark,

 

You were too quick! I checked it and found I made a mistake, try again.

[Tony B]

Works now.

[LeeEnfield]

first glance it looks like carden lloyd carrier;

I'm (sort of) :whistle: sure Dragons were larger vehicles,......maybe's I'm thinking of earlier Mk's, which were 'between the wars', period.

 

Cheers for the link, Richard

 

Andy

[Tony B]

Andy note there are 2 listings Light and Heavy. Was it a generic term used at the time for a class of vehicles.

[LeeEnfield]

Andy note there are 2 listings Light and Heavy. Was it a generic term used at the time for a class of vehicles.

 

 

 

:dunno: could have been, I guess;

Will have to dig out my set of W&T's. :-)

 

(thats an evening gone,- then. :whistle:)

[Richard Farrant]

Andy note there are 2 listings Light and Heavy. Was it a generic term used at the time for a class of vehicles.

 

 

It is Light and Medium, there does not appear to have been a heavy. I think the term "dragon" comes from its role of gun tractor, (ie drag gun : dragon).

 

The Medium was obsolete by early war but used for training, powered by an Armstron Siddeley 8-cyl engine of 90 hp. It looks like it was based on the Vickers Medium tank

[LeeEnfield]

It is Light and Medium, there does not appear to have been a heavy. I think the term "dragon" comes from its role of gun tractor, (ie drag gun : dragon).

 

The Medium was obsolete by early war but used for training, powered by an Armstron Siddeley 8-cyl engine of 90 hp. It looks like it was based on the Vickers Medium tank

 

 

 

Thanks Richard,..................... :-) thats the one I was talking about. :-D

Will still dig out article, as and when.