XWDV8 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) I have just got the v5 for my 127 rapier. on the v5 the taxation class as PLG. the last road tax 2006 also PLG. Edited September 8, 2012 by XWDV8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangie Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Ahem, say nowt, you are fortunate, you could open a can of worms and a world of pain!! There may be a chance, however, that a previous owner has had the vehicle weighed and sent the report off to the dvla with supporting evidence and they have de-rated it but left the VIN plate as-original. Alec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XWDV8 Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 thanks for the reply Alec, this 127 is about 3 weeks off from the MOT man, if they spot the 3600kg on the plate could they move this up to the next type of MOT ? as its over 3500kg ? regards Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Everything is now 'Computer guided'. So what ever comes up on the screen, monkey see monkey told. Unfortunatley, Monkey up at DVLA seems to have taken the lazy option and dumped all utility Land Rovers at higher weight, regardless of wheelbase or age.Seems to be working on the idea of making an arbitiry decison, then jutify job sorting out the cock ups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XWDV8 Posted June 27, 2012 Author Share Posted June 27, 2012 thanks for the replys. big help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 thanks for the replys. big help Help and DVLA, two words very rarley conjoined. Though in thier defence Sidcup local office have ben very helpful to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 What does it actually say on the VL5? In theory that's what is on the big disc somewhere in Wales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XWDV8 Posted June 27, 2012 Author Share Posted June 27, 2012 What does it actually say on the VL5? In theory that's what is on the big disc somewhere in Wales. its PLG on the v5, but would be class 7 for the mot as its 3600kg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike65 Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 its PLG on the v5, but would be class 7 for the mot as its 3600kg Class 7 is only up to 3500 Kg. http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/motoring/owningavehicle/mot/dg_4022514 3501 Kg and over would make it HGV. Which opens another can of worms. May be worth getting it down plated. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XWDV8 Posted June 27, 2012 Author Share Posted June 27, 2012 Thanks Mike, sorry ment HGV I did look into getting it down plated but with the Missile racks, Missiles, radio kit,batterys, that bolt in the back this will be hard. dont mind its HGV just dont wont a tug from the old bill over some taxation or class point :stop: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utt61 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Class 7 is only up to 3500 Kg.http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/motoring/owningavehicle/mot/dg_4022514 3501 Kg and over would make it HGV. Which opens another can of worms. May be worth getting it down plated. Mike The link in the post quoted is interesting since the direct.gov site is still showing Dual Purpose Vehicles listed under the Class 4 MOT section (which I understood had been removed from 2010). Since the definition of a DPV is contained in the C&U Regs 1986 (as amended), any Landrover with an unladen weight (note, not kerb weight) under 2040kg is a DPV, with a very few exceptions (for example the Series One 4x2 version isn't since it doesn't have all-wheel-drive). The C&U regs do not specifiy a maximum GVW or GTW for a DPV, only the unladen weight restriction. I don't know the ULW of a 127 Rapier, if it is (or can be made to be) under 2040kg, then, provided that the info on the direct.gov page above is still correct you should be eligible for a Class 4 MOT (as well as able to drive at normal i.e., car speed limits, exempt from "O" licensing, and exempt from Driver's Hours regs as well). The tax class of PLG is consistent with DVLA thinking that it is a DPV. Landrover usually quotes only kerb weights for its vehicles, and the kerb weight includes something like 70kgs for the driver, a 3/4 full tank of fuel, spare wheel, tools, etc. The legal definition of unladen weight certainly doesn't include the driver, not sure about the fuel and tools though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean N Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 What does the V5 have listed under revenue weight (not under taxation class)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XWDV8 Posted July 4, 2012 Author Share Posted July 4, 2012 What does the V5 have listed under revenue weight (not under taxation class)? there is no info next to this on the v5 Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiomike7 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 I have just got the v5 for my 127 rapier. on the v5 the taxation class as PLG. the last road tax 2006 also PLG. but the id plate (see photo) is 3600kg have the DVLA got the taxation class wrong ? [ATTACH=CONFIG]63547[/ATTACH] You are not reading the plate correctly, the maximum axle weights add up to 3.4t assuming perfect loading which is nigh on impossible. The undefined weights are most likely a 3.6t trailer and a 6.9t gross train weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XWDV8 Posted July 4, 2012 Author Share Posted July 4, 2012 ok thanks for all the replys, still a wee bit lost on this, should this Landrover be Private HGV or PLG [h=6][/h] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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