robin craig Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) As reported elsewhere, usually BATUS vehicles returning to the UK travel by train and then ship.This year items are moving by road.Spotted this week on Monday, locally to me were these two Land Rover 90s. They are in the typical "CAST" yard condition that anyone who has ever been to BATUS knows only too well. What is even more interesting is typically these vehicles and other like Bedfords in similar condition have been sold off in Canada.It boggles my mind that a bean counter has determined that these are worth shipping all the way back to the UK to be sold at Withams. I'm sure that they wont fetch anywhere near the costs incurred to get them there.This adds fuel to the fire that the UK MOD has been asked or told not to sell vehicles off in Canada anymore. This news came to light recently on Maple Leaf Up forum in connection to the fate of Canada's MLVW fleet which are being cut up for scrap rather than being released.Robin Edited December 2, 2011 by robin craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Possibly a return load (ballast) for a RFA ship , but probably not.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fesm_ndt Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 It does sound odd. I wonder if it is some type of agreement made at the govt level at the beginning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landyandy Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 its the same bad economics as shipping them back from the falklands which is were my 110 was based Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbo Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Erm shouldn't they be heading EAST to Withams...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 Timbo, you spotted one item (now changed0 that I put in to see if people were awake, still one to go. I'm investigating the govt policy changes at this end. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbrook Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Almost certainly due to an otherwise empty BATUS maint ship coming back anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 (edited) It does sound odd. I wonder if it is some type of agreement made at the govt level at the beginning I understand that the Disposal Services Authority are disposing of surplus "locally" where possible, in order to get the best returns. I would think that could depend on what the surplus consists of and local regulations, but did hear of a load of Bedford MJ trucks that were used at the British Army training base in Kenya, were sold off out there. Edited December 3, 2011 by Richard Farrant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Erm shouldn't they be heading EAST to Withams...? I suppose they could be rail freighted EAST and then ship loaded, however would not rail freight to Vancouver be best , then SOUTH to Panama before going EAST . I suppose it depends on what RFA vessels are around & where they are tramping next - possibly WEST , there will be no £ accounting on a back-load if there is plenty of hold/deck space.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretfixer Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Having done a couple of 'Tours' at B.A.T.U.S myself in the past, I wouldnt touch one of these vehicles! They will be Shag*d out with the amount of work they have done over there! The Training area on which they deploy is a VERY Harsh enviroment, with dust like grinding paste getting into EVERYTHING! Also, the Constant Battering they get driving over VERY rough terrain does little to help this! I recall, it was the first time in my life I have ever seen Series three LWB Landrovers with MULTIPLE Welding lines & Patches to their chassis! They split here & there due to the stresses imposed by these conditions! Nope, Wouldnt Touch ONE of 'Em myself!................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted December 4, 2011 Author Share Posted December 4, 2011 Having seen many ex BATUS pieces of kit I agree with Ferretkit about their condition. What he doesn't appreciate is that in civvy market place in the early 1970s Land Rover turned off the lights, shut the door and walked away from North America. It was only in the late 80s that they came back into the fold and set up shop again. There are many ex BATUS series trucks around in whole or part form that orginated a BATUS or from Wainright. I was one of a number of lucky winners in a tender sale of ex Wainright series leaf sprung vehicles when the last of them were sold off as the coil sprung fleet was introduced. Even today the utility "Land Rover" or Defender product is not sold into North America. There was a brief period when NAS spec 90 and 110 were sold in limited quantities.The availabilty of coil sprung vehicles is NIL unless imported from overseas. Now, on another note, no one has spotted something in one of the original pictures that would raise a question. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m109a3uk Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Now, on another note, no one has spotted something in one of the original pictures that would raise a question. R Are you on about that nice looking trailer? Like it do you know what it is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretfixer Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Yes, I wondered about the trailer also. Is it a collapsable type/ air portable/ dropable variant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Land Rover marketing now seems to be obese Americans and Foot baller's wives. As for shipping stuff back there is now a lucrative marketing for stripping and refurbishing Landy spares, not to mention scrap, so costs might at least breack even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted December 5, 2011 Author Share Posted December 5, 2011 The trailer was interesting and a specialised piece of kit that looked as if it was not surplus but going to Ashchurch by what I could tell. It is a water purification unit with some kind of NBC role. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Are you on about that nice looking trailer? Like it do you know what it is? ----------- Yes , me too - but then I considered the trailer was to obvious as the "spotted thingie" clue , there was me still searching the Rover pics, and coming to the conclusion - possibly there may be something strange.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbo Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 I thought it must be the giant ice skate...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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