FV601 (R.I.P.) Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Was on the lookout for a vehicle to get my teeth into and was toying with getting a WC63 but on an off chance came across this little gem whilst on an excursion to pick up some roadwheels for a mate's 432. http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/Daemon1/jtferret3.jpg[/img] http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/Daemon1/jtferret2.jpg[/img] http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/Daemon1/jtferret1.jpg[/img] I know she looks a state but with the exception of the rear engine deck she is all there including the flotation screen. I take delivery shortly after Christmas as we need to shuffle a few things around at my storage facility, after that it will be a long haul to get her back into shape. Will try and keep all posted on progress as we go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joris Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 That's really going to eat up your spare time! Looks great though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 John, If I were you I'd get hold of another Ferret and brake it for spares. It'll be much easier and cheaper than trying to restore the burnt out insides, and you'll get bits like the engine deck too which are impossible to find. You'll probably get your money back selling the wings and bins! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Hi John, If you need an exhaust silencer, I have a NOS one. Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FV601 (R.I.P.) Posted November 18, 2006 Author Share Posted November 18, 2006 Was thinking of going along those lines Chris Just need to find one going cheap :evil: Know anyone who's got a non runner and wants shot of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FV601 (R.I.P.) Posted November 18, 2006 Author Share Posted November 18, 2006 On checking it over Richard the silencer seemed to be OK bear in mind that was just a superficial glance. Will bear it in mind when I get to grips with the beast on delivery as first jobs are to strip all the tinwork, engine, transmission and internals off and go to town with the sandblaster inside and out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 John, My silencer was fine untill I went further than 20 miles and it fell to bits. I suggest you relieve Richard of his NOS one! I'll have a think about the Ferrets, other than the ones in Belgium there aren't that many around anymore. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FV601 (R.I.P.) Posted November 18, 2006 Author Share Posted November 18, 2006 Might just be a good idea then Chris Richard if you let me know what you are looking for, we might be able to do a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FV601 (R.I.P.) Posted February 14, 2007 Author Share Posted February 14, 2007 Well finally took delivery of the beast today. Too wet to take any pictures but hopefully better weather tomorrow so will try and get some more then. One initial problem noted though, rear wheels appear to be "locked up" as in they dont roll. Any suggestions lads? I have a feeling I have a gearbox / transfer box rebuild coming up but if any of you know any better please feel free to let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 John, The Mk 4 has the same brakes as a Fox & Stalwart. These brake units reknown for sticking. I'd get it up on stands, remove all the wheels and check the brakes first. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Chris, if it was only the brakes stuck on the rears then surely the fronts wouldn't turn :dunno: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Chris, if it was only the brakes stuck on the rears then surely the fronts wouldn't turn :dunno: Handbrake seized??? Just a thought..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Handbrake seized??? Just a thought..... Yes but the front wheels still shouldn't turn if the back wheels are locked up.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 So the front wheels spin but it just drags the back ones? I would check all the sun gears are in the hubs and that all the prop shafts are connected. Our Fox had the rear sun gears removed and tied to bits of string in the engine bay! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Yes but the front wheels still shouldn't turn if the back wheels are locked up.. Good point! :oops: Could be Chris is right then and sun gears have been removed - although why is anyones guess??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Good point! :oops: Could be Chris is right then and sun gears have been removed - although why is anyones guess??? Maybe someone had it on a suspended tow at some point :dunno: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Could be - didn't John say it'd had a bad engine bay fire?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Could be - didn't John say it'd had a bad engine bay fire?? The fire looks like it was in the crew compartment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 The fire looks like it was in the crew compartment Reckon I may have an answer on this. If someone had removed the front sun wheels to do a front suspended recovery (obviously not REME, they would have known better), it is entirely possible that the handbrake, which is two band brakes on front bevelbox input flanges, were either on or rubbing, and caught fire. This may explain the fire damage in that vicinity. The sun wheels are removed because it is illegal for the suspended wheels to rotate, if they have been removed at the front, this was a no.1 mistake on the part of he who did it. Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FV601 (R.I.P.) Posted February 15, 2007 Author Share Posted February 15, 2007 Sorry no responses earlier chaps but I fell asleep, :dunno: I'll try and check the prop shafts and brake calipers to see if its at that point but I have a feeling it might just be the sun gears. Richard's explanation sounds extremely plausible so will investigate that also. Thanks for the input guys, just goes to show the benefit of places like this :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Going to ask a stupid question here, what are sun gears please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 John, If the sun gears are missing Richard Banister has them, they're about £30 each though. Mark, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicyclic_gearing Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Cheers Chris, so would it be a big job to remove these for towing and would it not be a pain every time you had to tow, there must have been an easier way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FV601 (R.I.P.) Posted February 15, 2007 Author Share Posted February 15, 2007 Thanks for that Chris Need to give Richard a call anyway as need a couple of bits for the Saladin :roll: Will try and get some pictures today and post them later Cheers Chris, so would it be a big job to remove these for towing and would it not be a pain every time you had to tow, there must have been an easier way. The idea is not to do a suspended tow on them Mark but if you have to its easier to disconnect the propshafts to the elevated axle. Rebuilding the hub can be a pain in the A**E so the propshaft route is better on that score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Mark, On FV700 series vehicles the front and rear wheels are locked together as there is only one central differential in the transfer box. It's illegal to do a suspended tow with the front wheels rotating so they would normally remove the sun gears from the rear wheels to disconnect them from the drive train. Removing the front wheels would stop them rotating too, but it's not ideal as the drive train will still be rotating as it is towed. On the Fox & Ferret Mk 4 & 5 removing and replacing the sun gears is not much trouble. It's much easier to remove them than the prop shafts as you can get to them without having to remove loads of covers or even the engine! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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