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great to get the engine sorted, it's the most important piece of the jigsaw and the one all the other blokes want to hear running, those flatheads do sound nice.

while we're talking of engines if you don't want that one that's near to you any chance you could pass it on to me as i'll need one for the loyd.;)

all the best

 

eddy

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I've partially stripped down the flathead and all looks good, however it will need a larger rebore, according to the hot rodding guys in the sates they can safely take a 100 thou OS and by the look of the lip at the top of the cylinders it is going to need it!

 

On another note, the prototype exhaust stub pipe arrived today, it looks good, so it is off to the machinst and the foundry are casting a full set in Feb.

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I've partially stripped down the flathead and all looks good, however it will need a larger rebore, according to the hot rodding guys in the sates they can safely take a 100 thou OS and by the look of the lip at the top of the cylinders it is going to need it!

 

 

 

You could always liner the block and bring it back to Standard size, just depends on what piston sizes are available.

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Naa, I calculate that 100 thou will give me 4.5 litres, if the ultrasonic gives me enough margin, I'll go down the rebore route. As far as piston os goes, from the USA, up to 125 thou is available.... When you lift the engine cover it is going to to look as it would have done in Normandy 44. Well almost, it is getting electronic ignition..... I need at least one modern item on my desert island!

 

Ps. Went to look at that flathead local to me today, waste of time to be honest, not only was it not a 24 stud, it had been taken out of a vehicle and left in a muddy field for the last 20 years by the looks of it, a scrapper for sure! Anyway, Jenni and I met a nice Colombian girl friend of hers for a cup of tea on the way home so it made it worth it at the end of the day.

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alastair we need pictures and more pictures please but i'm not talking about the loyd i meant the nice colombian girl :cool2: ay caramba !

on a slightly less interesting note, i'm boring my 24 stud flathead out by 40 thou and i'll skim the heads as well. more power the better it'll be to drive

 

i feel a bit of carrier racing is on the cards

 

eddy

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The drivers floor, braces, brake cable covers and front lower hull plate are complete, a friend is bringing them around this evening as he is currently at the fab shop with his Universal Carrier having it modified to reflect some in service mods that he has wartime photos of. There work is wonderful, the drivers floor has 0.5" pressing at the back to sit in the x-member and a further pressing that comes up the plate to give a relief for the handbrake mechanism, at least it appears to be for that! I presumed they would chop it out and weld in a rough copy, NO, they made a two part pressing tool and pressed an exact copy of the original. I've got the pressing tool now so all those hundreds of Loyd Carrier owners who need a new floor, know where to come :-D

Photos tomorrow.....

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Thanks guys, here are those photos.... I shall be publishing more in the Loyd Owners Club restoration news letter. Better know as this restoration blog;)

 

As you can see I have got rather a lot of holes to drill, better get on with it and stop typing:-D

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Fine photos, thanks Niels!

One day mine will look that good :-D

They must have been rushed into service as the wd numbers are still visible, good for me as I can check the manufacturer. The middle photos show a Ford machine and the one about to tip over is an original vivian Loyd built example, a TPC.

 

Can anyone ID the wartime unit markings on the tool box at the front of the carrier second from the bottom? Looks like a circle with a W at the top.

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Thanks to Mr Gaddafi I'm not off to Libya next month as planned, so I have got on with the Loyd Gearbox. There are some photos attached below. I sent off the parts for acid cleaning last year (I think!) but my Dad didn't manage to collect them for over a month, by which time the inside of the gearbox casting had some rust staining. The casing was primed with an anti-rust primer and once cured sprayed with a green colour reasonably close to the post war V8 rebuild shade...the correct 'Ford Dark Green' should be on it's way from the USA any time soon for the final spray when it's all bolted together.

 

The gearset came back as new, and as an unexpected surprise a 1944 date appeared from beneath the muck and corrosion: April 44.

 

All the original bearings have cleaned up well (ultrasonic bath) and have been re-fitted, the gearshift plate wasn't stripped down at the same time as the box, thus that still has to go to be cleaned. To ensure the box is finished to Loyd spec the range wreck Gearbox donated its clutch leaver and (because I lost the other) its oil fill plug.

 

The engine has been soaking in plusgas for two weeks now (new dose each night) to I will be attempting a bottom end strip soon.

 

Jenni, Izzie and I checked on the 7V chassis two weeks ago and cleaned up the workshop ready for the chassis strip. Yet again, if anyone can help me find Universal / Loyd Carrier bogie parts please get in touch.

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No photos I'm afraid, however a quick update.

The Gearbox was virtually back together when I realised that the rear support is damaged and the rubber is quite hard after seventy years! Does anyone know if there are any NOS gearbox rear mounts available? It's something that needs to be done now as the support is sandwiched between the box casting and the rear mainshaft bearing retaing plate, so I can't cover the rear bearing without finalising the mount.

 

The project was given two road wheels by a friendly farmer last week, which was nice. I found over a dozen wheels at a local timber yard being used as cart wheels, there were Canadian UC, British UC and Windsor wheels but none were for sale as the were in daily use.

 

Finally, I have got the paint sample from a hotrod guy in the USA for 'Ford Dark Green' and a small pot of 'Ford Dark Green' from a UK Vintage ford specialist, are the the same, are they F##K>:( However a quick cross ref with a photo I have of a NOS USA Flathead wartime waterpump shows the USA sample is spot on! Engine colour DONE, never speak to me about it again in my life;)

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