younggun Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 (edited) i thought it was about time i started one of these blogs with all the work going on with FLOYD at the pressent time . the help and advise i have recived so far from forum members has been most welcomed and without doubt i will require more in the future . As some of u will know i having problems with a seized clutch after a weekend of driveing around trying to release it failed . i came to the conclusion that takeing the clutch out was the only way to go to prevent damage . so the last two sundays have been spent removeing the offending clutch i had no idea how big of a job this was going to be so i just dived in head first and got on with . it . i removed the coupling muffs with out much hassle only to then find removeing the coupling flange difficult due the engine truning over when trying to undo the nut so i made a simple divice to stop this . coup after the nut was undone i used a puller to remove the flange and after smacking my head a few times and OLDGUN takeing photos the bell houseing soon followed and after a half hour of scraching my head and reading the manuall the clutch followed there was evidence of the clutch plate rusting to the wearplate but i am still investigateing the cause of the problem just to be sure as there is signs of wear on the release bearing and while i was working on the clutch OLDGUN was cleaning the engine and just some other pics for genral interest Edited January 15, 2009 by younggun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 That is a VERY nice Explorer you got there mate ! Well done ! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julezee001 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Hi Younggun. Great to see you're making good progress, she looks to be very original and complete. I hope once you've sorted the clutch the driving experience is rather improved. It all looks very familiar as I had to get the Eagle diesel flywheel modified to take the original Meadows clutch cover before fitting the engine. Jules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younggun Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 Hi Younggun. I had to get the Eagle diesel flywheel modified to take the original Meadows clutch cover before fitting the engine. Jules bet that was a nice job julez ime still trying to get my head round it then ive got to figure a way of getting it all back together as getting it out througe the cab floor was not easy . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Glad to see it went OK and you've got OLDGUN on the job, I shouldn't think you will need it but I seem to think I have a new wear plate for the flywheel somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiomike7 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Nick, are you sure that the flange had to come off, it is a long time since I took one to bits. Having said that, you may need the bare input shaft to centralise the clutch when you put it back together unless you have a suitable adaptor. Check the flywheel face for heat cracks which they are rather prone to while it is apart. As Bernard has just said, the face is removable. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younggun Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 (edited) yes oldgun is getting stuck in and enjoying himself ill bear the wearplate in mind bernard but it all looks to be healthy apart from the wear marks on the release bearing where it looks like the release levers have been spinning on the release bearing ? Edited April 10, 2009 by younggun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younggun Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 (edited) Nick, are you sure that the flange had to come off, it is a long time since I took one to bits. Having said that, you may need the bare input shaft to centralise the clutch when you put it back together unless you have a suitable adaptor. Check the flywheel face for heat cracks which they are rather prone to while it is apart. As Bernard has just said, the face is removable. Mike i,me prettty sure that the flange had to come off mike i was doin it by the manual . i couldn,t see any other way of doing it . i will check for cracks thanks for that mike :tup:: Edited January 9, 2009 by younggun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 X 6 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Great pictures and a really nice Explorer younggun. And, now I know what you look like, I'll give you a hoot and a wave if I see you on the Mway with any abnormal loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julezee001 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Getting the flywheel machined was one job which held me up for a while. I dropped it off at a local engineers workshop, and waited and waited. He finally went to machine it only to find it wouldn't fit in his lathe by the depth of the teeth on the ring gear. Luckily he knew of another local firm who have a lathe to turn up to 48 inches, and it was then rapidly sorted. The Eagle flywheel was machined flat, and a new smaller ring was made and bolted to the flywheel, allowing the old cover and release mechanism to be kept. On the road it's heavy but perfectly usable, but off road it rapidly seems to get a lot heavier! In hindsight I should have had a diaphragm clutch fitted to the Eagle flywheel, and have modified the release mechanism. Unfortunately I don't have regular access to large machine tools, and at the time I was just keen to get her going and took the relatively easy option. Jules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younggun Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 (edited) Great pictures and a really nice Explorer younggun. And, now I know what you look like, I'll give you a hoot and a wave if I see you on the Mway with any abnormal loads. ill keep an eye out for u 6x6 be warned my replys to people hooting can be quite rude so please state freind or foe and wave the white flag before doing so .:thumbsup: Edited January 9, 2009 by younggun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 ill keep an eye out for u 6x6 be warnd my replys to people hooting can be quite rude so please state freind or fowe and wave the white flag before doing so .:thumbsup: :rofl::rofl::rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croc Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Hi Younggun, good to see another Explorer blog, well done on getting such a good looking machine. :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 I made my own clutch aligning tool out of a piece of scaffold tube, a sawn off bolt and some gasket material (Used on EEC clutches). Worked well, and when a piece of sawn off broom handle was used in place of a bolt, i did a twin plate Merc V8 diesle clutch with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 X 6 Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 ill keep an eye out for u 6x6 be warnd my replys to people hooting can be quite rude so please state freind or fowe and wave the white flag before doing so .:thumbsup: Blimey younggun, I sincerely hope you, and your mates, don't ever get impatient hooting from other lorry drivers. I'm sure we all have the greatest respect for the difficult job you do. You'll know it's me because I always slow right down when I pass so that I can get a real good look at your rig. (and probably cause even more hooting from cars) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Nick, I don't know if the clutch shaft spigot bearing in the crank is a sealed one, but if it is it may be wise to prize out the seal and check that no water has got inside, and re-grease it. A some people like to put a thin smear of copper slip on the splines as well. You have incoming email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madrat Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Congratulations on the new acquisition! He looks good! Cant wait to see a few video's once you get the clutch back together :cool2: Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younggun Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 Nick, I don't know if the clutch shaft spigot bearing in the crank is a sealed one, but if it is it may be wise to prize out the seal and check that no water has got inside, and re-grease it. A some people like to put a thin smear of copper slip on the splines as well. You have incoming email. :tup:: thanks bernard i will investigate the spigot bearing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younggun Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 (edited) just an update on the clutch the driven plate was rusted solid to the pressure plate so no matter how much driving about i did it would not have done any gd so i am a bit releaved that i made the decission to remove the clutch . i a have all so checked for cracks in the wear plate and the pressure plate . and there are several heat cracks visible :shake: pressure plate and clutch plate are now in the hands of my local hgv parts specialist and they seem to be able to help :sweat: Edited January 9, 2009 by younggun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 X 6 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 That sounds like a lot of very encouraging progress.....good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younggun Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 (edited) The clutch is away being refurbed by my local truck parts supplyer . there only concern is that the release bearing does not seem to be a tight fit on the shaft is this right or is something missing . the release bearing seems just to be floating on the release levers . can anyone shed some light on this please ? nick Edited January 9, 2009 by younggun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younggun Posted December 20, 2008 Author Share Posted December 20, 2008 (edited) well my xmas present has come early the explorer clutch is back from being rebuilt .at first i could not tell that it was the same one i am chuffed to bits with the work that has been done . pics are as follows before after shall be reffiting it as soon as i can figure the best way to lower it back into place . plan A involves a chain hoist on a forklift boom poked through the drivers door . i wellcom any other ideas people have on the matter i also wish everyone merry christmas and a happy new year nick Edited January 9, 2009 by younggun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodge Deep Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Cor they've made a nice job of that...! Shame to hide it in the transmission... needs a spotlight on it on a plinth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younggun Posted December 20, 2008 Author Share Posted December 20, 2008 (edited) Cor they've made a nice job of that...! Shame to hide it in the transmission... needs a spotlight on it on a plinth! thought about using it as a decortive chritmas tree base so every one can see it Edited January 15, 2009 by younggun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Wow looks fantastic! Was it expensive? Have you told Antar Mike the name of the refurb place they may be able to help him out with his Antar clutch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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