Stormin Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 Fantastic work Norman - stupid question but when do you plan to have it ready by? And what a workshop! Not putting a time scale on things Jack. We've got another baby due in February so that will reduce project time. Yes it's a great workshop. Unfortunately it's not mine (wish it was). Belongs to my friend Dave at DJM engineering in Bacup, Lancs. He's kindly allowed me to park my vehicle in his yard whilst I carry out some of the work. He'll also be undertaking the welding and fabrication of a new rear body. He's registered on here and I think slowly becoming infected with the green bug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 All good stuff Norman, great detail pics and descriptions, just what we need, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42 chevy Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Norman; I can see that my job was alot less involved than yours in removing the bed. Having that overhead gantry crane sure helped. Great photos. I was not aware that the rear winch and crane were attached. Great job. I am now rebuilding my brake chambers. I would suggest that you have a look at yours as well. My brakes worked, however, I have found alot off debri in the chambers and some valves that were sticking( check valves and relay valves). A good cleaning was in order. I will post pics under Diamond T air brakes. John Gott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 Norman;I can see that my job was alot less involved than yours in removing the bed. Having that overhead gantry crane sure helped. Great photos. I was not aware that the rear winch and crane were attached. Great job. I am now rebuilding my brake chambers. I would suggest that you have a look at yours as well. My brakes worked, however, I have found alot off debri in the chambers and some valves that were sticking( check valves and relay valves). A good cleaning was in order. I will post pics under Diamond T air brakes. John Gott Brakes are next on the agenda after I've got the engine running properly. Be a lot easier with the crane removed. It was only when the bed was removed that I notice the brake chambers for the rear axle are not fitted. I also noticed the nuts and studs securing the brake chambers to the second axle are wasted with corrosion and have been painted over. I'm expecting the compressor to need a good looking at as well if it's anything like the injector pump. I was thinking of trying to obtain new diaphragms for the brake chambers as they're of unknown age and probably on the points of failing if not already failed. With there only being one air circuit a split diaphragm would be a disaster and leave no brakes. :shake: I assume the diamond T is on exactly the same brake system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 With there only being one air circuit a split diaphragm would be a disaster and leave no brakes. :shake: Ask Heliops about that one and he will tell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42 chevy Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Norman; I believe they are, they might even use the same axles, from your pictures thay look the same. I have a source new diaprhams, but I believe you can get new ones from sources near you. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted December 20, 2008 Author Share Posted December 20, 2008 Haven't posted any updates for a while but I haven't been idle on the truck. Got the fuel pump back together and installed. Runs better than ever now with a very positive throttle response, something that was lacking before. Still a little smokey so injectors may need a clean at some point, but it hasn't really had much load on the engine yet. Working outside is getting more difficult at this time of year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42 chevy Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Norman; You have the snow I see and I have the very cold temps right now. The better part of the US is getting hammered by a brutal winter storm currently. I am working on small parts in the shop as I have the truck sitting outside on jack stands currently How is the brake rebuild coming along? John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abn deuce Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Going to get brutally cold here in Nebraska tonight ...expected -11 f with winds 25 to 35mph plus making for -25 or more windchill . currently +2 f would not want be outside period. As Ranger said on the dodge site go out in summer attire and spend a few moments to get a feel for what the soldiers experianced in the winter of 44 ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Thats seriously cold, although we had the coldest start to December for more than 30 years it has now gone back to our usual damp and mild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted February 15, 2009 Author Share Posted February 15, 2009 Well it's been a while since I last posted but I've not been totally idle. Most work has been in th air brake system and the rear axles. After rigging up some copper pipes for the brakes there was a complete failure to build pressure in the system. First to be looked at was the brake actuator. Stipped down on the bench it looked in remarkably good condition internally thanks to a stainless steel diaphragm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted February 15, 2009 Author Share Posted February 15, 2009 Replacing the actuator made no difference still no air pressure. Next to be looked at was the rear brake relay valve. That was a different story. Remoarkably it cleaned up quite well. Even the rubber diaphragm was serviceable under all the crud. Seeing what mositure had done to this item, made me re-arrange the air brake piping. I made sure all the air went through both air reservoirs before reaching any ancillaries. Whilst this is the standard arrangement on the Ward La France, my air compressor is on the opposite side so I had to modify the pipe runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted February 15, 2009 Author Share Posted February 15, 2009 (edited) Next for the strip down treatment were the rear brake chambers. Some of the nut and bolts were seriously corroded. Obviously been sitting covered in mud for years. Edited February 15, 2009 by Stormin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted February 15, 2009 Author Share Posted February 15, 2009 Two of the diaphragms were shot. The other two would probably have been O.K. but for the price I ordered four from Army cars in Holland. One of the brake chamber tops was severely pitted internally to the point of perforation. I elected to weld this up. All the chambers were grit blasted and have now been partially painted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Serious crud there mate,but its satisfying to see the finshed part.:-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42 chevy Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Norman; Nice work on the brake chambers.. Mine were no where near as bad as shape as yours. That relay valve was a mess. I bet you will sleep better tonigth knowing you went thru a complete overhaul of the brake system. I am working on my wheels right now, I will post pictures soon. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markheliops Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Good work Norman. Off to the farm on Thursday so if you want any pictures of certain components let me know. Markheliops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted February 16, 2009 Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 Whilst some of the small brake parts have made it to the home workshop for fettling, I've been spending time at weekends removing brake parts from the back axles. All the S cam's were seized. The paintwork on the rear axles is not good, green slapped over grease and dirt. The intention is to strip the axles down somewhat for better access and grit blast then paint again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted February 16, 2009 Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 It was a good workout removing eight rear wheels and four brake drum / hub units. in fact it was two workouts on consecutive weekends as I had to make a makeshift spanner to fit the large hub nuts. It was a bit cold at times too! Managed to warm up rapidly moving wheels and hubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted February 16, 2009 Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 Had to resort to the torch to remove all the S cams. The slack adjusters were easily removed and will be cleaned up by wire brush and painted at home. I'm going to have to source new needle roller bearings for S cam's as they're all past it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Well done mate,seeing these pics reminds me of when i did this sort of thing for the then Metropoliton Water board,one things for sure i couldnt do it now.:sweat: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Nice job mate ! I reckon it needed doing !:wow: Should last another sixty years now ! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted February 16, 2009 Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 Meanhile, indoors my friend and fabricator at DJM engineering has made a start on the rear body restoration. The amount of work and tools required to do this are beyond my means but fortunately I know a man who can! Between building a new extension to his workshop he's removed the upper part of the rear crane bed. It has now revealed that the corrosion is not limited to the upper part of the crane bed but also the main frame rails are thinned by corrosion. I'm hoping to source some correct size channel to repair this section, but have been looking for a couple of weeks with no luck. I need two four foot lengths of 6" x 3 1/2" RSC tapered flanges. If anyone knows of any I'd be pleased to hear from them. Last resort is to repair with modern Parallel flange channel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I'm not sure 6 x 3 1/2 was ever a stock UK size :??? 6 x 3 yes, plenty of that turns up in reclaim yards. Even parallel flange stuff is 150 x 75 isn't it? :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) I'm wrong. And 150 x 90 parallel is available. Edited February 16, 2009 by N.O.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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