Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 :eek:RB44:eek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisg Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 The llama was the one that had potential,all it needed was a decent diesel engine,why did they knock that on the head i wonder. Anyone know why Perkins abandoned diesling the rover v8? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 :eek:RB44:eek: Makes you appreciate the 101. A lot of the RBs were sold off cheap as Shoot vehicles for beaters. I preffered to walk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Anyone know why Perkins abandoned diesling the rover v8? As usual this sort of thing never works well,i believe this was the case,diesels need designing from scratch .Got some pics of that experiment somewhere. Was it called the ice burgh project? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisg Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Makes you appreciate the 101. A lot of the RBs were sold off cheap as Shoot vehicles for beaters. I preffered to walk. What the beaters were shooting them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 I knoiw on few occasions that was one option seriously considered for the vehicles. High, nasty handaling, ***** uncomfortable. Very cramped unreliable. They were selling for from £2500 to about £5000, dependent on condition. You still see them occasionaly in Shooting Times classifieds. Never tried one towing, but that apparently was a one off experince, once being far to much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 As usual this sort of thing never works well,i believe this was the case,diesels need designing from scratch .Got some pics of that experiment somewhere.Was it called the ice burgh project? Iceberg I think. Pity it wasn't done properly could've been excellent in the Llama and of course the Range Rover. Had to wait 20 years until BMW did the job to get a proper V8 diesel in the Rover Range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Burley Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 As usual this sort of thing never works well,i believe this was the case,diesels need designing from scratch .Got some pics of that experiment somewhere.Was it called the ice burgh project? Iceberg indeed was the dieselisation program for the RV8.There is an example on display at Gaydon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Iceberg I think.Pity it wasn't done properly could've been excellent in the Llama and of course the Range Rover. Had to wait 20 years until BMW did the job to get a proper V8 diesel in the Rover Range. I fancy that v10 diesel out of the VW now that would make a truck:cool2::cool2::cool2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 The latest V8 diesel in the Range Rover is brilliant but that came about during Fords ownership of Land Rover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 I wonder what TATA will use an updated version of a lister 3cyl.no musnt be unfair he didnt become one of the wealthiest men in the world by suppling crap, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Burley Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Ive always been a fan of the big American diesel,s.The 6.2 GM unit as fitted to the Hummer,or the 5.9 Cummins,as fitted in the Dodge Ram,and now fitted in the Supacat Jackal.Not as refined as the V8 unit in the RR.But so much more purposeful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Ive always been a fan of the big American diesel,s.The 6.2 GM unit as fitted to the Hummer,or the 5.9 Cummins,as fitted in the Dodge Ram,and now fitted in the Supacat Jackal.Not as refined as the V8 unit in the RR.But so much more purposeful. Cummins are no good off road, end of story. I know of several people who have fitted the GM 6.2 in various different Land Rover models but they didnt work very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Burley Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 I beg to differ on the cummins engine.There are many owners in the states of the Ram,that are more than happy with the cummins.And it seems to be doing well in the Jackel.The GM unit in the LR is wasted to be honest.The main thing that killed it in the LR,was poor weight distribution,and its tendancy to eat transmission componants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Cummins are no good off road, end of story. I know of several people who have fitted the GM 6.2 in various different Land Rover models but they didnt work very well. Too big, too heavy and too much torque for a Land Rover transmission. Also requires more cooling than you can get under a Range Rover bonnet so more likely overheating and head gasket problems. Not too bad in vehicles that were designed to have them in though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 With the GM as you say the main problem was weight distribution, driven sensibly the transmission was OK. Cummins have never made an engine with low down torque which is vital for off road work, for on road use Cummins is an excellent engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Just about any decent diesel has more torque than the standard Land Rover offerings. Even the much vaunted petrol V8 torque is nearly eclipsed by the TDi. Gearbox and half shaft problems are not unknown with the standard engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 For off road use its not so much the amount of torque its all about useable torque. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Whats all this Talk about Torque,someone should explain,not everyone will understand,not me off down to the anti christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les freathy Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Love em or Hate em i still like photos of em a few more here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les freathy Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 two shots of the proposed 2 tonner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Doesnt look quite so butch but must of been worth pursuing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 I have an Isuzui 2.8 litre turbo disiel in my range rover. Now that is the diesiel Range Rover should have had. totally reliable easy to work on and just keeps going despite about 300,000 miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poptopshed Posted September 13, 2008 Author Share Posted September 13, 2008 Just had a 101 come into work for tires. Been converted to auto and had power steering. Drove lovely. :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowtracdave Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Nice looking re-panelled one just come up on Milweb . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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