Larry Hayward Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Did they make wet weather gear for Dodge Weapons Carriers in WW2, as I have never seen any photos of Weapons Carriers with this gear fitted? Obviously these vehicles had a tilt but what was used to protect the driver and passenger side openings? Anyone got any photos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Joris Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 I think the standard procedure in (heavy) rain during WWII was to get soaking wet.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tony B Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 There were variuos Weather proof cabs produced, a lot are ex Norwegian. In combat aituations better to be alive and complaining than dry and dead because you couldn't see what is happening. I built some wooden panels with perspex tops to keep the worst out. Otherwise a good tank suit and Gortex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 LeeEnfield Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Have seen preserved Dodge WC's with canvas 'doors', .......although never seen an 'in service pic', with them fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Bodge Deep Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 I think worthings do them but they're a slightly improved version of the PW Norwegian ones and don't resemble anything wartime... as there weren't any! Get wet is the order of the day :police: I've still go my Norwegian ones but to be honest your peripheral vision is so impared when driving with them on as to be dangerous that I'd only use them if i were about to drown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Larry Hayward Posted November 20, 2007 Author Share Posted November 20, 2007 Sounds like they are pneumonia wagons then - just like British 15 cwts with aero screens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tony B Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 It's the side winds that are the killers, muck comes straight through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 abn deuce Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 I think thats about the same as the open cab Diamond T trucks they had half door lowers only . a bit off this topic but I think in the American WW2 vehicle group only the staff cars,the Dodge ambulance's and perhaps the Dodge Command cars had heaters as standard equipment , perhaps other know if that's correct or if there were others . No idea on the Canadian or British Military <perhaps also only ambulances and staff and command cars> Real Men didn't need such extras as doors and heaters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tony B Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 yeah but it can get so that I need wipers on the glasses :-D i,ve driven mine in the rain, apart from the Dodge douche not to many problems. I always drive with as much canvas as possible up because the rest of them over here have the steering wheel on the wrong side. The other thing is when on the road I use modern bus mirrors, the bigger the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 lightweight Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Do you find that, with the windscreen vertical, if the car behind has its lights on all you can see is their reflection! Curiously, I have almost the same problem in my Land Rover Defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tony B Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 yep, it is a problem with any flat windscreen, same on buses and you have the backlight. The other problem is now everyone assumes the width of the headlights is the width of the vehicle. Oh boy I've had some moments when they found out WRONG! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Jim Clark Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 I don't think there was a factory set of doors for the Dodge WC range, but I am sure the GIs would have improvised something to protect themselves from the bad weather especially in the winter of 44/45. If you are looking for doors for your dodge we make a winter enclosure for the WC range it fit very easily with no modifications to your vehicle. When fitted it makes the Dodge virtually draft and weather proof with no loss of visability. I will attach a couple of pictures to show what it looks like and will post more in the classified section. Jim ALLIED FORCES 01454 261100 or 07831 378904 http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/CatD4/dodgewinterkit002.jpg[/img] http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/CatD4/dodgewinterkit004.jpg[/img] http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/CatD4/dodgewinterkit007.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tony B Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 How much for a set? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Jim Clark Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 The set for an early Dodge WC (without the gap behind the spare wheel) is £350-00, for the late WC (with the gap) is £380-00 and for the narrow body Canadian version £400-00. We sell loads of these, it makes the vehicle a joy to drive in bad weather. Jim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 abn deuce Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 A very nice improvement! You have capture details so much so it look's like it's a rare WW2 original , does it also deal with the problem of water sloshing forward on the rear roof? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tony B Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Hum, due some back pay. Which should be used for something sensible. Mines the late version, will get back to you. :flower: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tony B Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 A very nice improvement! You have capture details so much so it look's like it's a rare WW2 original , does it also deal with the problem of water sloshing forward on the rear roof? I,ve stuck some of that plastic sign board under the canvas over the uprights. stopps the water puddling beautifully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Jim Clark Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 ABN thanks for your comments about our canvas doors, as WW2 military vehicle collectors ourselves we try to make things that we would want on our own vehicles. Unfortunately it does not stop the water coming over the front when you first apply the brakes. We did for one customer, sew a flap between the main tarp and the cab roof which worked very well, if he wanted the cab roof off he just rolled it up onto the front of the main tarp. Jim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 abn deuce Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Your welcome , the flap idea is what I had wondered about doing or some kind of zipper with flaps , it seems to be the only weakness in the original concept unless and dare I say it , make the entire roof into a single piece ... that would also suggest adding ribs or supports between the windshield frame and the first bow running front to back ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Jim Clark Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 ABN, I don't think the cab roof is the problem, its the first section of the main tarp where the water puddles, then when the brakes are applied it shoots forward over the driver and passenger. The flap sewn between the main tarp and cab roof works well and stops the water coming over the front.I know this makes it impossible to remove the cab roof from the main tarp but you cant use the cab roof without the main tarp anyway. I don't think making the whole canvas as one would work as there would be no way to tension the cab roof section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 abn deuce Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 I see you meant that you sewed the front tarp on to the rear tarp I thought only a rib/flap of canvas had been added to the rear tarp . You have a good point as to the tensioning. I m sure the Dodge owners will be very interested in the weather proofing improvements you have to offer them now . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Larry Hayward Posted November 21, 2007 Author Share Posted November 21, 2007 Those wet weather doors do look good! As for water on the roof I have often thought that a few extra bungee cords could help remove the valleys that form in the canvas. Has anyone tried that solution on a Dodge? For anyone worried about authenticity, you would only need the bungees in place while travelling home because if it peed down with rain so much on the way to a show - you'd probably turn round and going back home! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tony B Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 The first time I drove mine she lovingly dumped about 3 gallons right in my lap. :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 abn deuce Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 That has to be a bit of a shock!!! Like where did all that ice cold water just come from ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tony B Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Still took her home though. Greater love has no man than he wil drive with a wet lap. :knockknock: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 abn deuce Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 At least you were going home and not out somewhere else .......where it might be difficult to explain about puddles in canvas and stopping and such a poor design ..... or do most WC drivers routinely carry spare trousers in plastic bags for just such occasions in wet weather? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Larry Hayward
Did they make wet weather gear for Dodge Weapons Carriers in WW2, as I have never seen any photos of Weapons Carriers with this gear fitted?
Obviously these vehicles had a tilt but what was used to protect the driver and passenger side openings?
Anyone got any photos?
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