Jerryjeeprichard Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I think it’s now confirmed I have a trailer problem… ! Yes another one has joined the collection, purchased from two avid trailer collectors. This is the murex welding version, very complete, sat in its post war bronze green. For now this will be pushed into the shed, but at some point will be stripped engine lowered back into the chassis, repainted and fitted back with ww2 electrics. Few images below. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rootes75 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Brilliant! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Suslowicz Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Very impressive, but why would the engine be jacked up? (Surely it would make the trailer far more unstable when being towed? Or was ground clearance an issue when used off-road and they had to do that to resolve it?) Chris. (G8KGS) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatchFuzee Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 15 hours ago, Chris Suslowicz said: Very impressive, but why would the engine be jacked up? (Surely it would make the trailer far more unstable when being towed? Or was ground clearance an issue when used off-road and they had to do that to resolve it?) Chris. (G8KGS) Originally truck mounted. More information:- http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/showthread.php?t=5434 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerryjeeprichard Posted November 9, 2023 Author Share Posted November 9, 2023 On 11/8/2023 at 8:47 PM, Chris Suslowicz said: Very impressive, but why would the engine be jacked up? (Surely it would make the trailer far more unstable when being towed? Or was ground clearance an issue when used off-road and they had to do that to resolve it?) Chris. (G8KGS) Chris. It’s a good question, something I’ve be thinking about. Certainly not a ground clearance issue. These we made to be air-portable. So needed a low hight to fit inside a glider, whether or not these were ever moved in a glider is another question. As Matchfusee pointed out these were originally skid units, then some adapted to fit into trailers, trucks etc. I would surmise the engine being sat so low in the trailer was a pig to work on, so having it sat on the upper frame made any maintenance whole lot easer. All be it now being top heavy. Some pictures I have found showing the Austin engine sat down in the chassis…. See how impractical it would be to work on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Suslowicz Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Good Lord! Not so much impractical as impossible... even setting the welding voltage and current would be difficult unless to remove the central toolbox and what I assume is the field current controller. (Maybe they did?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 11 hours ago, Jerryjeeprichard said: These we made to be air-portable. So needed a low hight to fit inside a glider, whether or not these were ever moved in a glider is another question. This is from the Argosy tie down book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerryjeeprichard Posted March 29 Author Share Posted March 29 Another trailer to the collection. This time just a bare murex welding trailer chassis 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cordenj Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 This is getting serious now🤦♂️🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangie Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 On 3/29/2024 at 8:36 PM, Jerryjeeprichard said: Another trailer to the collection. I spotted that one listed and did wonder if you'd buy it 😁 Alec 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerryjeeprichard Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 Ha. This trailer collection is boarding on being a problem!!! Apparently.. For the price it sold for I had to buy it. Complete with its original data plate which my complete murex is missing. Also the chassis currently under my first murex is 5KV generator type frame. To make into a WW2 murex frame it would take a substantial amount of work to adapt. My plans are to build one good WW2 spec trailer out of the two. I’ve spent a good day today cutting and grinding off all the clagged on bits of steel. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerryjeeprichard Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 Few hours today straightening back out the A frame. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerryjeeprichard Posted April 7 Author Share Posted April 7 Another full day fixing, don’t know where the time goes, All repairs now complete just read for stripping and taking to blasters. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerryjeeprichard Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 Transplant day. Switched the murex over. Now sat in its correct chassis. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerryjeeprichard Posted Sunday at 10:09 PM Author Share Posted Sunday at 10:09 PM Help and advice required!! Firstly. Engine mounts are knackered. Anyone recognise what other pieces of equipment these would be used on to help me track a set down. Secondary. Now that I have transplanted the trailer back into the murex chassis, the exhaust system that was in the original trailer will no longer fit. I have found another silencer that might be better suited. It’s a lot shorter and will fit width wise across the back of the trailer. Anyone any pictures on how the exhaust system should be fitted? Before I start getting creative? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuffen Posted Monday at 06:40 AM Share Posted Monday at 06:40 AM You could try looking up the Patent number. it may give you a lead on who designed it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Prof Posted Monday at 07:31 AM Share Posted Monday at 07:31 AM Hi, @JerryjeeprichardI had the same idea as @Zuffen The patent is from 1934, Standard Motor Company, Coventry. Full patent here: GB431874A.pdf Best Regards, Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatchFuzee Posted Monday at 07:40 AM Share Posted Monday at 07:40 AM 58 minutes ago, Zuffen said: You could try looking up the Patent number. it may give you a lead on who designed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatchFuzee Posted Monday at 08:34 AM Share Posted Monday at 08:34 AM Worth looking at? https://www.robush.com/metalastik-mounts/ http://www.partline.co.uk/automotive/product-filter.asp?PROD-GROUP=Mountings&COMPANY=Metalastik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerryjeeprichard Posted Monday at 09:27 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 09:27 PM Perfect. Thanks for the advice. I never gave the patents records a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerryjeeprichard Posted Monday at 09:38 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 09:38 PM Little more progress from the weekend. So looking at the images of John C welder trailer restoration it seems there is an additional plate welded to the chassis to locate the front engine mount. Based of the images below I have the same alignment issues. So I planned to replicate by fitting the additional plate too. Doing this jacks the engine up meaning the fan won’t run concentrically in the radiator. in the end I removed the old engine plate and replaced with a slightly longer one. Complete with little helper! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cordenj Posted Wednesday at 07:08 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 07:08 PM (edited) x Edited Wednesday at 07:20 PM by cordenj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cordenj Posted Wednesday at 07:18 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 07:18 PM (edited) 13 minutes ago, cordenj said: Great photo Richard. Start them young....this was a few years ago as he's reading Aeronautical Engineering at Sheffield now, so 10cwt trailers were a good grounding! But back to your question: The exhaust was rotted off my First MUREX, so had to get creative. Edited Wednesday at 07:22 PM by cordenj 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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