Pzkpfw-e Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 http://ww2live.com/en/content/world-war-2-ww2-german-submarine-wreck-found-coast-argentina-after-70-years-it-might-had Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g0ozs Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Looking at the size of it - a bit over 10 metres? and conning tower amidships the best match would be type XXVIIB "Seehund" - The Seehund vertical fin extends forward fromn the rudder, level with the top of the hull, until it blends with the hull, but this wreck appears to have a separate vertical fin with a space forward where the hull expands to full diameter, so has lost the skin (leaving the more substantial rudder post) or is not a perfect match to the Seehund - a photo of the front end (round and torpedo like in the earlier German mini-submarines Molch and Hecht, pointed in Biber, or a sharp vertical edge in Seehund) would help to confirm or shed further doubt! See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seehund which has links to the others at bottom and http://www.uboat.net/types/midget.htm http://speyer.technik-museum.de/de/highlights-im-museum/ausstellungsbereiche/marineausstellung-u-boote/kleinstunterseeboot-seehund.html The numbers made would strongly suggest that anything German of that size likely to be found was a Seehund (200+ made compared with 50 or less Hecht) - and only the Seehund was diesel/electric and able to travel far. The other mass produced boats (Biber and Molch) were smaller and single seat. I don't think it is a Biber (no cutaway sides for torpedos) and the Molch conning tower was far aft where as this one seems to have projecting metal remains amidships. What is odd is that none of these boats had the range to get that far under its own power and only Seehund had 2 crew positions of the mass produced minisubs, so they could only really have been used as a taxi to ferry something inshore from a larger ship or U-Boat. It did have significant external load capacity for 2 torpedos which could have been reused for cargo, I suppose. Iain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAFMT Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 As one of the commentors said, the photograph appears to be one of the British X-Type on the beach up in Scotland. It certainly doesn't seem to fit a Seehund for the reasons Iain said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g0ozs Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 It does indeed look rather like this one: https://canmore.org.uk/site/114354/unknown-x-craft-aberlady-bay-firth-of-forth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean N Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 These are the quite well known X-type trainer wrecks in Aberlady Bay on the south coast of the Firth of Forth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 The old saying ... 'never let the truth get in the way of a good story' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean N Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Next thing you know someone will claim a Nazi armoured gold train has been found buried in Poland... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeePig Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Next thing you know someone will claim a Nazi armoured gold train has been found buried in Poland... :-D trevor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAFMT Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Next thing you know someone will claim a Nazi armoured gold train has been found buried in Poland... Everyone knows those pictures were of the the 18:57 King's Cross to Edinburgh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbo Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Everyone knows those pictures were of the the 18:57 King's Cross to Edinburgh! These completely made up click bait stories are really starting to p me off now!! Oh and everybody knows there's no 18.57 - it leaves at 19.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbo Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) And a quick search reveals the source of the original pic... http://coastkid.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/a-saturday-cycle-to-sub-wrecks-at.html?m=1 Actually having just read the comments on the original story they have been well and truly rumbled including by the blogger whose pic they nicked so maybe there is some justice!! Edited December 22, 2015 by timbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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