trailerpirate Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 hey I want to top up oil levels and check all oils But I am not sure which exact oils to use since everything is army coded Does anyone maybe have a decoded list??? Would be very helpfull Thanks in advance Greets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Richard Farrant Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 But I am not sure which exact oils to use since everything is army coded Does anyone maybe have a decoded list??? Hi Trailerpirate, List the army codes and I will decoded them for you with the correct grades. regards, Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Hi Richard, If that is an open offer, can you please let me know what I should be using in my Saracen? [TABLE=class: grid, width: 500] [TR] [TD]Category [/TD] [TD]Temperate/Tropical (Above -5 Degrees Celsius) [/TD] [TD]Severe Winter (-5 to -20 Degrees Celsius) [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Oil [/TD] [TD]OM 13 [/TD] [TD]No Change [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Oil [/TD] [TD]OX 8 [/TD] [TD]No Change [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Oil [/TD] [TD]OMD 75 [/TD] [TD]No Change [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Oil [/TD] [TD]OEP 220 [/TD] [TD]OEP 38 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Oil [/TD] [TD]OX 320 [/TD] [TD]No Change [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Grease [/TD] [TD]XG 279 [/TD] [TD]No Change [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Protective [/TD] [TD]PX 7 [/TD] [TD]No Change [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Thanks, Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 There is a comprehensive list of equivalents on the forum on page 2 of Clives Corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 And for the lazy people, here is the link: British Military Oils and Lubricants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailerpirate Posted November 9, 2013 Author Share Posted November 9, 2013 Thanks so much starfire!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Don't thank me, thank Clive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Hi Richard, If that is an open offer, can you please let me know what I should be using in my Saracen? Hi Terry, Well, I have been beaten to it, Clive has a very good article there on the Lubricant codes. To define it further for you, in relation to your Saracen, I do not recollect OX-8 being used in them. This is a DOT4 brake fluid and must not be used in this vehicle, what is used for hydraulic brakes and steering is OM-13 which is a mineral hydraulic fluid with the grade ISO 10, as the grades in the ISO range are very close in their viscosity, 12 or 15 may well be alright, given the ambient temperature in Australia. It might be worth checking any Australian army manuals about what engine oil grades they used in theirs, due to your temps being high than the UK. The gearbox does not need any fancy oils, a SAE 30 engine oil is used in them, with transfer box and all other gear oil fills (OEP-220) being a Hypoy or EP90, but ensure it is one that is compatible with "yellow metals", ie. bronze, brass, etc. XG-279, just an ordinary chassis grease and PX-7 is same as Vaseline or petroleum jelly available in drug stores. One point regarding Saracen suspensions, where there are nipples on wishbones, etc. do not use grease in these, but use the OEP-220 equivalent gear oil that is safe with bronze. Hope that has defined it a bit for you, if in any doubt please send me a PM. regards, Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Thanks Richard, From what I understand from the Service Schedule, the OX 8 was used in some early Saracens, but most were changed over to OM 13 at some stage and are identified by a placard on the hydraulic tank. Mine is marked OM 13. Cheers, Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Thanks Richard, From what I understand from the Service Schedule, the OX 8 was used in some early Saracens, but most were changed over to OM 13 at some stage and are identified by a placard on the hydraulic tank. Mine is marked OM 13. Cheers, Terry Yes, Terry, quite correct, it would be almost unlikely to find one of the early Saracens using synthetic fluid now. I had quite forgotten about that. I worked on them when they were in service and later on a number in private ownership. cheers Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvinthemartian Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Much the same with early Leyland Martians, they had a bag type accumulator fitted which required the use of OX-8. Later ones having piston type accumulators using OM-13. These too having a brass plate atop the hydraulic tank proclaiming to use OM-13 only. Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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