Davey089 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Thanks Ron, Yes, I have a registry, 60 original Welbikes in it, but am not so sure all the owners will want their numbers published?? And I don't know you from Adam, so please introduce yourself a bit etc. do you have one yourself?? Only from 3 maybe we know where it served during the war, most were however never used at all!! Cheers, Lex Schmidt welbike@welbike.net Hi Just seen this thread my Welbike Mk1 Series 2 Frame number 1260 Renovated 2 years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I wonder why yours has got two petrol tank strips on each side? Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey089 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 (edited) I wonder why yours has got two petrol tank strips on each side? Ron I was told by Welbike UK that it is an early Mk1 . They told me its the 2 straps that make it an early batch in production,and how it came to have the 2 petrol tank straps. Quote: The first batch in production they found they had put the tank straps at the wrong angle and too far forward so the wheel caught on the tanks . They returned this particular batch back to the workshops ,rather than cutting the wrongly placed one's off they just placed a "new" strap at the back of the existing one and drilled it accordingly to accept the tanks. Edited January 10, 2014 by Davey089 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 That's interesting. I'd never heard of it. Mine is from about halfway through the first contract S789 and the mistake must have been rectified by the time mine was built. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey089 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 (edited) I was curious as to why myself .I thought at some point it had been "played" with, I was going to remove the extra strap when I had got the steering stem replaced .When I took it to Welbike UK to have the steering stem replaced it was then that they told me about the "mistake" , and it being one of the early batch , so I left it as it was . Edited January 11, 2014 by Davey089 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddesire360 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 G'Day Welbike Owners Not sure if this chat forum is still active however I am in the market for a welbike however with the number of copies floating around I want to educate myself on how to confirm a Welbike is an authentic item, be it resorted or unrestored. Is there a frame number and or matching engine number that can be confirmed as with the later Brockhouse Corgi's. What other features can be used to confirm an original welbike? Best Regs from Oz Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 (edited) Well I'm still here and no doubt Lex will be along sometime. He's in UK at the moment and will be at my house tomorrow. Any fake CAN be made to look original with enough effort. But the first thing to check would be the engine number. They were not matching numbers but were all prefixed XXE, which is unique to a Welbike. It's not easy to modify an XXA Autocycle engine number without destroying the raised cast in "No". The frame number is on the front of the headstock and is usually a light stamping (So as not to distort the tube). Underneath that is the inspectors acceptance stamp which includes a "crows foot" over an "M" and the inspectors number under that....... Ron Edited May 14, 2022 by Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rewdco Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 The acceptance marking (a broad arrow over a letter M over a number 419) was made with one single stamp. Due to the roundness of the tube, the first or the last digit of the tube are sometimes so faint that you can't see them. Below another genuine Welbike acceptance marking, and one that I spotted on a fake Welbike. Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welbike Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) On 1/10/2014 at 8:46 PM, Davey089 said: I was told by Welbike UK that it is an early Mk1 . They told me its the 2 straps that make it an early batch in production,and how it came to have the 2 petrol tank straps. Quote: The first batch in production they found they had put the tank straps at the wrong angle and too far forward so the wheel caught on the tanks . They returned this particular batch back to the workshops ,rather than cutting the wrongly placed one's off they just placed a "new" strap at the back of the existing one and drilled it accordingly to accept the tanks. I have the oldest known MK1, and nothing like 2 tank straps, someone must have done something wrong at the factory! Lex Edited May 18, 2022 by welbike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Mine is also quite early #555 and only one strap??? Ron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welbike Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Yes, only ever saw one strap, but then, it could be very possible, if someone would want to fake it, he wouldn't want to do it this way! please send me the frame and engine numbers, and I will add it to my register, all is very confidential ofcourse. Cheers, Lex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 According to a previous post, Davey's frame number is 1260. You might already have it Lex? Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welbike Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 I did not have this number yet, is there an engine number known too?? The C number on the tanks was C5152160 Cheers, Lex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Dave's last post was about 8 years ago. I think I know who he is, but you'd have to PM him for an engine number. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welbike Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Thanks Ron, I'll wait a little, he might read this. Cheers, Lex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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