millmarsh Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Hi. Can anyone give me some information on how the winch operates? It appears to be stuck/rusted solid at the moment, I have managed to free up the brake and PTO leavers in the cab but the drum still won't budge. I don't want to force it until I understand how it all works so I don't knacker anything up. I have removed the pto shaft from the gearbox to the winch and the pto works as it should Any information greatly appreciated.. Also if anyone has any info on the lorry its self please let me know as I only bought it last year and now getting round to getting it on the road. Its reg is RFO 918, chassis no. 7879, vehicle no. 91 BD 81 and the winch is stamped with 18.06.1953 and I believe it spend some of its life with a fair/circus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Could be the brake band has stuck onto its drum through lack of use and moisture mate ? Good luck with her and could you post some pics here http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?7057-Scammell-Explorer-Gallery when you get a minute as we all love Scammell photos ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protruck Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 also have a look at the centre drum shaft bushes. top and bottom to make sure they are free. if the brake band is free this could be the problem. Give them a good socking with WD40 or diesel. Hope this helps Clive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrtcrowther Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Ok....To let the winch pay out cable....PTO should really be out of gear and the big brake leaver by the drivers door must be released, Also the winch drive dog clutch must be disengaged. This is the leaver on the rear wall of the cab between the seats.I think it should be pushed away from you to disengage the dog clutch. You should now be able to wander off with the end of the winch rope in your hand...... Or if its stiff like mine fasten it to a land rover and drive off:) To winch in......Apply the winch brake firmly, engage the PTO and then engage the winch drive dog clutch....You normally have to fettle the clutch to get the dog in. You are now ready to winch in and the operation is controlled by the clutch. The winch brake has a ratchet inside the drum which will be heard clicking when winding in, It should hold the load when you depress the clutch. Things to look for are....Winch brake stuck to drum....The serving gear rollers out of time with the winch drum.....Pressure rollers siezed or bent out of shape cos the serving gear is out of time. Good luck.. Mine was bloomin stiff and still is cos i never use it:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julezee001 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 The previous owner of my Explorer stripped the winch completely as it was seized solid on the vertical shaft. It took him nearly 2 bottles of acetylene to free it off! Now it just sticks on the brake band which has swelled with rust, again needing a Landrover, or tree attached to pull out. Jules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millmarsh Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 Cheers for the replies. Right.. I have freed the winch brake drum off, and have removed the bottom cover on the vertical shaft and have found this was full of water:( I have also tried pulling it out with my 5 ton folklift but drum still won't turn.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Hope these scans help mate ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millmarsh Posted July 29, 2011 Author Share Posted July 29, 2011 Hope these scans help mate ! cheers:thumbsup: that gives me loads to go on at least I can see what its meant to be doing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scammell 7377 Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 mark, as you know i had loads of trouble with my winch ill phone you in a while may even be able to pop in if your home i have to go to shepton mallet after lunch ,andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millmarsh Posted July 31, 2011 Author Share Posted July 31, 2011 Well after following everyone's advice, a few tubes of grease later and a tree i've just managed to free it off:clap:will put a proper update on later - many thanks for your replies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Good to hear that mate ! Nice one ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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