Replaced the rear spring over the weekend all went well and now sorted also we all still have all our fingers.
Centre spring mount bearings will require some attention soon. Were very lucky did not have to remove any of the torque rods or move any of the axles, jacked up truck and blocked chassis with timber, unbolted the spring shackles and removed all ok, this released the spring, unbolted and removed the centre spring plate bolt ( the on which holds all the leaves together then knocked number 4 leaf ( fourth up from the bottom ) through until the end was level with the end of leaf 5 this enabled the spring to be slid through one of the axle spring pockets ( can get leaves 1 and 2 which are in there anyway and also No3 will fit too but No4 stops so sliding it along gives enough room) and this made enough clearance for the other ends of the spring to clear the other axle pocket and so the spring could be removed, re assembly is just the reverse of the above, as they say..