8_10 Brass Cleaner

Tomo, yes. My own steam tractor was registered for civilian use when new in 1915 in the BE series. It was comandeered in 1916, though I do not know for what use. It returned to its pre war owner at some point before August 1919 (when he sold it to a dealer), and I have a photo of it carrying both the BE registration number, an military markings on the belly tank. Its next owner (a showman from Derby) re registered it, in 1920 in the CH series. The registration it carries today. I had assumed this was because of the new rules coming into force in 1921. As I note WD fodens were allocated blocks of Cheshire registrations, and there are photos of them lined up ready for delivery. Were the petrol Subsidy wagons similarly allocated when new?

All vehicles did not need to be registered until 1921. Only certain vehicles from 1904. Of which a lorry would be one. Though I do not know what exemptions (if any) there was for the WD It was common (probably the norm for steam makers) for their makers to register them in the local Heavy Motor index on completion. And I notice the Carlton Colville Thornycroft is HO (Hants) registered. All WD Fodens were M (Cheshire). WD Claytons FE (Lincs). Suggesting no exemptions for the WD What I'm getting at is that being CC registered is probably because it was re registered locally in 1921. I guess it will have been its 2nd reg number, not its original!.

Dad would be delighted. I can't wait to see it run. Out of interest, the war dept wagons will have been required to be registered when new in the heavy motor index. Were they registered by the maker in Hampshire?. Were they HO xxxx? Or perhaps OT xxxx? I understood the Caernarfon number was in the post 1921 series? From memory dad got the copies of the registration documents from the record office. Do you have them?. The wagon had been bought by the quarry immediatley post war.

The trailer is wartime or just post war. One of two I believe built to move transformers. The common motive power was Diamond T's. Norman Box had some trailers that look similar in the 1920's, but the earlier trailers were much simpler. The solid rubber tyres really only became common on them after the great war. I think the reality is that most if not all the heavy equipment the military needed to move went direct by rail. They will have not moved anything by road like this. Even the tack that came from America like the Holt will have come via a ship direct onto rail for onward travel. Once in France it will have started hauling direct from the railhead. Its how they moved the big guns also!.

Own personal policies. From memory my combined RTA and PL is a flat £34 per annum. With accidental damage a flat rate per £1k insured. Again from memory about a fiver per 1k. Most of us are well underinsured on accidental damage simply because of the value. That said they are not in the slightest bit stealable as a single lump. The good news for me is if I set something on fire with a spark I'm covered. I have to say that I also run vintage cars. The day I have to pay for PL to attend a show with them is the day Ill stop taking them to shows. I often have modern cars parked on show fields. No PL on them either. What is the difference?

Yes, thats exactly what it is. Though it may be early enough to be petrol. Electric Wheel Co made and sold spoked wheels like that to convert Fordson N's to blow ups

One of my Friends has come accross it 'in the London area'. Sounds like it has been on here before. The Vulcan axle looks a good match to me. Can anyone point it in the direction of a home?. If it has a worm and wheel in it, then surely someone will be glad of it.

Whats this off then? Looks to have the worm at least, no halfshafts.

Started recently? or is it an old calamity?. I ask as it doesn't look like the engine is freshly overhauled.....

Gents I found this cutting in a file last night. Thought it might be of interest Also found some pictures of the pumping house/pump it used to drive. Ive linked them rather than taking up space in the thread. The pump was driven by a belt from the brake drum on the gearbox. http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tti/14/008_1548.jpg http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tti/14/008_1549.jpg http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tti/14/008_1550.jpg http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tti/14/008_1551.jpg

120mm bore. No mag. No water pump. 4cam followers missing. Rest there. Dont ring him yet. He is having his tea

Kens been busy today. Driven a Sentinel steam tractor 15odd miles this morning. The his own Aveling roller a similar distance tonight. I gave him a lift back.....

I hope Messrs Gosling wont mind me posting a few photos on this thread. Ive been going through and scanning dads slides, and have found the ones of recovering it. Essentially what was recovered started this restoration. Those of you who have been to Anglesey via the A55 will know of the tunnels on the coast around Penmaenmawr. Above these tunnels was a large Granite quarry. In the quarry next to a lake was a pumphouse. Driving the pump was the remains of the Thorny. A sawn off chassis, a gearbox, a bulkhead and fuel tank etc with gear change mechanism and an engine (not the correct one). There are no roads up there, so it was revovered using a IH drot and what could be carried in the bucket. The pictures are self explanitory. Nearby was the infamous De Winton loco 'Penmaen', its remains are still there if somewhat robbed. I went on a scouting trip, but chose not to go on the recovery day, it was 1983 and i was 4.

Ben That put a smile on my face. My mate (another steam man) described it to me and it sounded decidedly White & Poppe. Then he dug out the pics and it was confirmed. Is it the right sort of size?. It is certainly for sale, we believe it is all there, just in pieces. My friend is to fetch it next week. I'll e-mail you my contact details. The engine is in Shropshire. Tony, dad was right, there is loads of stuff still out there. This time last year I found a 1929 Clathorpe motorcycle in a scrap pile on a farm. Not only have I amazed you guys, but I have amazed my mate by finding him someone who wants it even before he had fetched it back.

Ben. A friend of mine has come across this engine. Looks like a White & Poppe to me. These are old pics, it is currently in pieces. Ex fire pump apparently. What bore & stroke do you need? Ill get him to measure up

This is how we do it on the steam tractor. On a steam roller on steel tyred wheels, you simply use a greased plate and bars, with a little help from the jack. 5 minute job.

We have met at Mill Meece. You had the Lion there. My engine is currently about 1/2 mile from where your picture was taken. I buy my lunch from the shop when im up at the shed working on it. Sadly the engine will be moving away after 6 years a week on Saturday. Off to a new shed in Great Bolas

We had a 100th birthday party for the steamer last year. Basically we took it, and 6 others to the local pub (in Norton in Hales) and had a splendid day. Even had a cake. I have a copy of the ledger from the selling agent giving the date.

International Harvester Titan. Probably a 10/20. Diabolical things

Based on experience of steamers which are all plain bearings you should be aiming for as little as possible end float. When I did the 2nd shaft on the engine I had to machine the spacer off site and ended up with 10tho' which I was happy with. This is a similar diameter. Bronze bearings get hot and nip on the diameter not the side faces. I would have also thought that excessive end float on the wheels would be hard on the halfshaft splines. Its a simple turning job to make spacers to sort. Steel or bronze spacers will be fine. Personally Id do a dry run without the oil seals, then put them back in, using the nut to force whe wheel home. Felt seals soon compress and make their own clearance.

I hared a slightly different twist which will elaborate somewhat. The driver of the cheiftain was in gear, and he tried to give the mclaren a tug. Apparently with the good grip both had, not only did the Mclaren loose its front wheels, but it lunched the transmission in the tank too. Apparently there was some arse kicking done by the NCO afterwards.

if you boil an egg with something aluminium, the aluminium will go black

anyone fancy a Commer? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Shepherds-Hut-Living-Van-Showmans-Wagon-Glamping-Commer-Car-Truck-Chassis-/291508253023?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item43df3ef15f

What age is the collections tin lizzie with the Huck Starter on the back?

In front of Mighty Atoms trailer?