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hi just bought this off ebay still working out transport if anyone has any suggestions

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Eager-beaver-Miltary-Forklift-for-restoration/153974475862?hash=item23d9980c56:g:gMEAAOSwYgle6fet#vi__app-cvip-panel

i went up and we managed to get the engine started after a few melted battery terminals we found the right place to jump start her and she fired up nice and quick and not much smoke when running(only ran her for a minute as no water in her so didnt want to overheat). clutch is stuck and throws out alot of water from the clutch lever opening as the cover is missing so if anyone has a clutch part number and or pics/place to source the cover(guessing it was a rubber boot?)

elecrtics look like they need redoing but doesnt seem to be very complex schematics welcome though. tyres hold air and only showing small signs of perishing. apparently he has fork extensions in his yard which is good as i need to put an old ambulance box on a truck as one of her first jobs.

ive bought this to use not intending a full restore now as dont have the time. i have a few older rustier machines (lang junior lathe ex mod Royal Aircraft Establishment (RAE) farnborough research establishment,and 2l van norman milling machine)need moving and i no longer have access to a forklift.

does anyone have scans of service manuals/parts lists and dimensions of the crane hook attachment i want to make one of those up for removing engines etc.

im based near southampton and work for myself doing mechanics, solar pv, gardening, woodwork and general engineering/welding(also festival work whe theyre on)

thanks for looking, love the forum, i have been a lurker for years and now im one of you ;)

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The manuals are available in paper form as far as I know from Vintage Vehicle manuals who have an online store and are great to deal with. As far as scans of whole manuals for free there might be some on a place such as a Facebook group. I like scans but support the buying of the real thing so as to keep people in the business of manual reproductions and sales, I feel it is worthy beyond belief, I fear I may be old school and in a minority.

As far as the vehicle itself goes there will be people who offer help and advice hopefully.

Always wanted one and nearly bought one, classic British mechanical design and production to satisfy a need and a cool piece of kit.

That is enough from me, glad to see it saved. Thank you for posting.

 

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thanks mate i had seen their manuals on ebay but they seem to mainly be mk1 and im on a tight budget hence why i buy old semi working equipment with potential rather than new so will buy manuals when required but would rather save money for the parts i will likely have to source. have already aquired a slightly moldy perkins engine manual but any other sources of info welcome. thanks

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A lot of the parts are Bedford RL if I remember rightly oddly all of the wheel stations used are NS Front. I think they have a cult following.

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They were a 'parts bin' machine made by a Royal Ordnance Factory, two adapted RL front axles, RL gearbox, Thornycroft transfer box, and Coventry Climax forklift steering box., along with a Perkins tractor engine. I worked on them for the army, the manual would be an EMER which is in three levels of repair, Unit, Field and Base. A part list would be of great help to glean the origin of some of the parts.
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I hate to say it as I am not on Facebook and don't agree with this forum being used as a portal to it.

There is a private group on Facebook with all the info you need.  I know as my EB was photographed and measured, including the crane hook adaptor and my set of manuals (user and parts for Mk1 and MK2) to be available for the group.

Something I regret to some extent. I don't have a copy of the manual scans for you but if you join the group you will get all the help.  As an alternative as would you believe it not everyone is on Facebook, you can get the manuals (copies) from Green Machine Surplus.

Iain

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Both FB Groups and sites like this have a place and should work together.  Unfortunately a lot of very good sites like this have folded to the detriment of their subject areas when people have migrated to FB.  The thing I don’t like about FB sites is they attract a lot of people who know very little about their subjects but which does not stop them commenting at great length.  When questions get answered you can also get huge long threads where individuals comment without making any attempt to read the previous answers and wrong facts have to be repeatedly corrected.

Due to weak admins on some FB Pages they can also get flooded with non-relevant posts or taken in a direction which does not reflect their subject areas. 

The Eager Beaver FB Group probably works a lot better as I assume the membership will be limited and hopefully does nor attract tire kickers. 

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7 minutes ago, REME 245 said:

Both FB Groups and sites like this have a place and should work together.

Yes they each have a place but the assumption of many that everyone uses Facebook is a problem. I do not and never will, I am not alone.

It happens when posts on here refer to more information and/or pictures that the poster has placed on Facebook, this is an abuse of this forum (in my opinion) and cuts off those that support this forum.

Each to their own..

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thanks mate i try to avoid the faceache but will voyage in for a look. did anyone find a clutch part no or other vehicles that have the same one, there was speak of it on other threads but the trail seemed to go cold.

will post some pics once i get her here on sunday. maybe start a new thread.

thanks

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I'll dig out the parts book in the morning and scan the relevant pages. My EB will also need the clutch doing when I get around to it so its of interest to me as well.

Iain

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thanks mate i did contact borg and beck but as usual the name has been sold several times over the years and is now part of firstline parts. the technical guy was helpful and said he can have a look if i give him all the dimensions but they only do upto 10" clutches.

thanks

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and green machine surplus just replied that the only mk2 documents they have is the parts list, the others are mk1 and from what ive read the wiring is different on those, any one know the other main diferences between mk1 and 2? many thanks for all the replies i wasnt expecting so much interest :)

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Here you go, pages from the parts book that covers Mk1 and Mk2.

Sadly its a 13 inch clutch..

 

 

 

 

C1.jpg

C2.jpg

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Better scans

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4 hours ago, vortexwizard said:

thanks guys! do you know which of the 3 in the link will fit? have you fitted one? thanks

Sorry, no to both questions. 

You will have to contact Haldex. 

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That Haldex website is in North America!

The clutch is Borg & Beck and these are their part numbers:

clutch driven plate is part no. 54795TT

Clutch pressure plate  is part no. 48446/20TT

The people to talk to are Clutchfix in Yorkshire, www.clutch-fix.co.uk

They made a new plate for me for a customer's Rolls Royce engine in a fire tender, Very good service.

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