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Well, that is good news with the HDD!

 

As for music from win98, do you have a program like CDPlayer? It should be part of win98, later replaced by Windows Media Player, if I remember rightly. Fairly basic thing, never used it much.

 

trevor

 

Cheers Trevor

 

yes the windows 98 has a music player , I was wondering if it would push to video though , but looks like it wont .

 

Rich

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Iain

 

I have those pics for you , also some showing the connections at rear of the LXI laptop to see if you can figure them out ?

 

I also acquired a pair of SSP teleprinters I think which I hope to set up with the LXI if possible ? I have included some pics of the connectors on these also .

 

im guessing XMOD will be able to help me out with the leads , im guessing the printer could run from mains electric or vehicle electrics ?

would this type of printer have been used in a Bates truck like mine ? if so would it also receive data via radio ?

 

cheers

 

Rich

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the above pic shows the ribbon attached to the interface , by just removing the ribbon from the interface the pin connector will then fit straight on to a normal HDD .......seems too easy ehh ?

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The 322 HF linear has a wider separation between the mounting bars than the other vehicular radio kit, I think.

 

Regards

 

Iain

 

Are we talking about the 322 amp ? ive seen archive pictures of these these and most are rigid mounted to a table with the 250 watt TURF mounted on top ? no rubber isolating feet .

im wondering if the table is for the heavy (32Kg) ruggerised monitor as used in the CRVT ??

 

Rich

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nearly forgot , this picture shows the new small HDD cobbled up to fit , it isn't very secure sadly maybe a bit of foam top and bottom will stop it bouncing around ?

im hoping of finding another Toshiba HDD ( MK 4313 MAT ) HDD 2141 to have a DIY repair of the other LXI .

 

 

Rich

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Hi Rich

 

It all makes sense now I can see inside the laptop! Was there meant to be another photo with the rear connector cables ?

 

Do you have any info on the teleprinters ? Or failing that a photo. The Clansman RTTY system operated using Baudot (5 bit code) at 75 bits/s with either +/- 80 volt signal levels for mechanical Siemens T100 printers or +/- 12V levels for more modern electronic machines. I think BATES/BMETS/LACS was ASCII (8 bit code), based on all I have seen (although I believe the actual messages over the air were binary data to a large extent).

 

I did once have a Trend 713 teleprinter (a black electronic machine with separate dot matrix printer and keyboard units bolted to a base board) which had a connector similar to the female one on my LXI - that interface turned out to be RS232 at 300 baud and I do have notes of the pinout somewhere (not seen since moving house). Because the BATES/BMETS messages are handled by the computer and printed off line if at all there is no real need for the printer and over-the-air data rates or character encoding to be the same.

 

Given that the LXI is a fairly normal PC compared with real BATES/BMETS or LACS machines I think the best approach is probably to make an RS232 to whatever-the-teleprinter wants interface and find some software to output messages to it. I havent tried it but I think K7TTY's program will do what you need at least on WinXP and older systems - see http://www.k7tty.com/development/software/RTTYArt.htm - you may also need a current loop interface e.g. http://www.aetherltd.com/connecting.html for an example.

 

If the machines you have are ASCII rather than BAUDOT (8 bit rather than 5 bit code) then the PC will likely drive it directly if we can work out the wiring.

 

We just need to find a RS232 port on the LXI now ...

 

Regards

 

Iain

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Now found the SSP printer pictures sorry - looks like it has a parallel (Centronics?) interface :( so need to find a pinout and make a cable to the LXI printer port. Having said that I dimly remember the printer inside those things is a fairly normal commercial mechanism and you may find a more normal connector inside as with the disk drive.

 

Regards

 

Iain

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Rich

 

The large 2 pin connector is marked "LAN" at http://www.thexmod.com/prod_pics/11991-2.jpg which is the back of an IARCCS machine - what kind of LAN I am unsure as I have never seen it in my day job working on Ethernet LANs for most of the last 20 years !

 

Regards

 

iain

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Rich

 

The large 2 pin connector is marked "LAN" at http://www.thexmod.com/prod_pics/11991-2.jpg which is the back of an IARCCS machine - what kind of LAN I am unsure as I have never seen it in my day job working on Ethernet LANs for most of the last 20 years !

 

Regards

 

iain

 

Probably 10base2 judging by the age of the device and the number of pins?

 

Andy

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Be careful with unusual connectors. If they are fibre optic they may be carrying laser light that would damage your eyesight (and it may not be visible light). As the old warning goes, "Do not look into laser with remaining good eye".

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Andy

 

10 Base 2 is the thin coax cable ethernet with BNC connectors. I think Lauren may have identified it - the connector looks like an Amphenol HMFM Hermaphrodite fibre optic connector: http://amphenolafrica.com/cats/HMFM.pdf - whether the protocol is 100BaseFX or something more unusual I have no way to guess.

 

Regards

 

Iain

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I think you're right, I haven't seen one of those before and the photos don't show enough detail. I wouldn't expect more than 10M Ethernet though, the fibre is for security, not speed.

 

Andy

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Managed to take some more/better pics of my Lxi laptop and printer, sorry there are quite a few but I hope they are of interest.

 

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Thats the laptop I'll do the printer/fax machine in a separate post.

 

Dougy

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Now for the Fax/ printer that came with the laptop, but I'm not sure if the two go together.

 

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Thats the printer/fax. Next post the connections on the laptop.

 

Dougy

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Dougy

 

Thanks very much for these. The proper in focus picture of the LXI disc (part number DB2IDE 12GB) explains a lot !

 

Iain

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[Amazzing pics , looks like a newer set up than my old clockwork jobby .

 

im having some operating glitches with mine now , something seems to go wrong everytime i try and start PC , waiting for a windows 98 disc to arrive so i can reboot . hopefully they settle down ??

Iain your spot on again , the printers i have aquired do have a seperate domestic type connection inside the case .

 

Rich

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Wow, laptop and printer, with a tank thrown in for free!

 

:)

 

trevor

 

No, that's just the Army version of a wheeled laptop carrying case! :-)

 

Andy

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No, that's just the Army version of a wheeled laptop carrying case! :-)

 

Andy

 

Laptops! I've got the tracked 'carrying case' for the Mk1 Tower system (Or even older) - the 439 SAS/MC :embarrassed:

 

'Chas.'

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Hi

 

The large brass connector at the rear is now emitting a red light , looks like a lazer ? on the female pin socket . so would light carry information , is this a fibre optic connection ??

 

Rich:-):nut:

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