abn deuce Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 A photo that could be posted under a number of different catagories . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centi521 Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 sorry but i never know for what barv's are? =( for what is that^^?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Beach Armoured Recovery Vehicle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan turner (RIP) Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 barv from RAWHS Colln probably at ROF Leeds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Oh gosh, now i have to go and find the photos I took yonks ago at ATTURM as it was called then. I do like the Cent and the current leopard based vehicles. Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agripper Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 If anyone has any photos of teh cents BARVs I would love a copy. Also there is always an open invite to anyone who wishes to have a closer look at mine in Doncaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan turner (RIP) Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 heres a few more Centurion barv views to go with those in the water tank, looks peculisar whenyou think that 6o tons of the tank are below the surface and that you just have the boat top on view and no apparent leaks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agripper Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 (edited) The last photo shows my BARV at the back.Do you know where they where taken. Thought it might be ROFL, but could also be anywhere. But as they seem to show them being built i would go for Leeds.How did you come by these photos? Edited December 3, 2009 by agripper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcspool Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Ram Dolphin, the Canadian variant of the Sherman BARV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Interesting pic Hanno. I think that gap between the glacis and superstructure might let the water in though.....:nono: Joking apart, it looks like a pre-fabbed top resting on the hull rather than built on to it as in Sherman. One of the problems with a cast hull I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan turner (RIP) Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 I believe that the BARVS are shown being built at ROF Barnbow Leeds although the one shown appears to have no number chalked on it and may be in mild steel so is it the 13th built. There are others in the collection but are colour negs and I cant get good results on them. Both David Fletcher and Simon Dunstan have seen the collection and are amazed, they have never seen any of them before. PM explains source of images Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcspool Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Interesting pic Hanno. I think that gap between the glacis and superstructure might let the water in though.....:nono: Joking apart, it looks like a pre-fabbed top resting on the hull rather than built on to it as in Sherman. One of the problems with a cast hull I suppose. Hi Adrian, Indeed, see http://kr.blog.yahoo.com/shinecommerce/16906.html?p=9&t=2 for more pictures. The front part seems to be a box sitting on top of the hull, the rear part is of course interconnected with the engine compartment. Regards, Hanno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo578 Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Hi Hanno Nice link, it also mentions the similar M3 BARV -built by the Australians (must be a genetic thing that the dominions all try the same thing:)). I wonder if the hull on BARVs are balasted- pig iron in the ex fighting compartment. Further the Indian Army have an example of a Sherman BARV, which whilst a gateguard at EME depot at Hyderabad it was designated a Battle Recce Vehicle BRV whatever that may be? Hyderbad has several other Sherman-specials and other critical WW2 AFVs most incorrectly labeled-A Crab designated as an ARV, for example. The BARV is now at the Indian Armour Mueusum at Ahmednagar along with a good number of other AFVs for example a Sherman Crab and DD with most of the screen components, they also have a WW2 Sdkfz 231 armoured car and the only other Coventry Armoured Car. See http://relics.warbirds.in/main.php?g2_view=keyalbum.KeywordAlbum&g2_keyword=BRV for the Sherman BARV in India. regards steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcspool Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Nice link, it also mentions the similar M3 BARV -built by the Australians (must be a genetic thing that the dominions all try the same thing:)). Hi Steve, Or it could be to address the American critisism about converting battle tanks into specialised vehicles? As you know the Americans were not very fond of Hobart's funnies, so converting older tanks like the Ram and M3 was a good idea. Not sure why this was not carried through. Basically this is what the Netherlands Navy did to four derelict Leopard 1's. The Netherlands Marines operate frequently with the British Marines, and when the RNLN was building a new dock landing ship it was decided to copy the Centurion BARV. This conversion was carried in-house by the Naval Yard. Funny thing is that this Leopard BARV was again copied for the British Marines by Hägglunds, probably at a much higher cost. Hanno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo578 Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Hi Hanno The M3 in Australia was a Post War conversion about 1950-3 along with the Yarimba (faux Sexton). With the requirement for CDL there would be no M3s available in UK. The Ram would not be a great choice because of the Radial engine and perhaps the riveted hull. It would certainly be fun to work on or remove the motor from the Dolphin, assuming of course it was still a Radial. Really don't know why the RM replaced the Centurion, moderise the engine and transmission and it could have had a new lease of life, it's not as though there will be another D.Day. regards Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agripper Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Have to admit I never understood why the MOD did'nt do a retro refit on the Centurion BARVs there was nothing wrong with them. The only wekaness has to be visablity but that could have been corrected. The other option which I realy dont understand why they did not go down this path was to use the Challanger 2 chassis for the base rather than the german tank. easier to get parks when your own tanks are the ssame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les freathy Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 heres a Sherman from the IWM collection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les freathy Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Just having a major refile of the armoured items in the collection and found these buried deep and forgotton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les freathy Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Another one just surfaced (no pun intended) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo578 Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 With regard to my mention of a Sherman BARV being exhibited at the Indian Armoured corps museum at Ahmednagar I came across an interesting photo blog, http://picasaweb.google.com/patilraosaheb/NagarTankMuseum# Again shows more exhibits from this relatively unknown museum including a nice view of the Sherman BARV show below, also evident on this site are a complete Grant CDL, an A9 cruiser and a T48 57mm armed M3 half track a type which most authorities claim were either sent to Russia or turned into personel carriers. DSC02223.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcspool Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 a T48 57mm armed M3 half track a type which most authorities claim were either sent to Russia or turned into personel carriers. Which is why this one is marked "M3 APC"? http://picasaweb.google.com/patilraosaheb/NagarTankMuseum#5350059059429423826 That Churchill ARV is a nice find as well: http://picasaweb.google.com/patilraosaheb/NagarTankMuseum#5350059810557846194 H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo578 Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 But still has the 6pdr without the shield, there are several Churchill variants at IAC Ahmednager including a bridgelayer and standard Mk7, the EMCE centre has a few ARv and a Bridgelayer. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteor mark 4B Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I did an article for Windscreen* at about the time the remaining six BARVs were de-commisioned, somewhere around 2003 I think. *Or it might have been MMI magazine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recymech66 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Saw this one at the Bovington Tank Museum looking a bit sorry for itself in a corner of the dead vehicle park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo578 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 It the one that was on SPTA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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