Rick W Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Supposing I wanted to mount a De-Ac on a vehicle, would I need a licence for it? Would it have to be taken off in public? Would I have to notify the rozzers etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 David Ives Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 i notify the local police of events i am attending at and inform them that i have deacts and a blank firer on board my vehicle plus i always carry the certificates with me main reason for this is if the local police stop you they would call firearms unit first then ask questions later plus when the guns are being transported then are covered and not in public view the blank firer is locked in a seperate case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Marmite!! Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 No licence need, no need to notify anyone, keep it covered up or removed when on public roads... & keep using your cash card for withdrawals.. it's safer:coffee: I don't even have to notify anyone when towing my LIVE MOBAT & 25pdr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 LeeEnfield Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Lee's right, Rick,re no licence needed,........just make sure you have your de-act certificate(s) with you, when showing carrying said items.............also, a good point made by David, when in transit, if poss cover them up,................(easy with a rifle, ect,..........harder I guess with a 25pdr.......) Also, slightly off tangent, but bear with me,......:-D if you intend to show kit off vehicle, I'd get yourself some PLI insurance sorted out;..........the vehicle insurance doesn't Normally cover items not attached to vehicle,..........also if someone trips over/drops kit on feet/ etc........:whistle: (Shooters Rights do a good one,.............I use them) Hey, Jack,..........is it worth approaching some such organisation and seeing if - with the power of HMVF, some sort of deal could be worked out,.........as, and I'm guessing here, quite a few of us do cover ourselves at present. :-D Just an idea........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Rick W Posted February 10, 2009 Author Share Posted February 10, 2009 Thanks for the clarification. Now where is my cashcard.....:whistle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Chrisg Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 I also keep them cover when travelling and carry a copy of the certificate clearly marked copy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tony B Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 No licence need, no need to notify anyone, keep it covered up or removed when on public roads... & keep using your cash card for withdrawals.. it's safer:coffee: I don't even have to notify anyone when towing my LIVE MOBAT & 25pdr Biggest danger with the 25 pounder is stopping idiots getting under the barrel when being towed. You brake they get a noseful of muzzle brake. Remeber that certain classes of air weapons don't need a licence, and the idiots changed the law so that rapid fire BB guns could be sold to kids. So the law is an ass. Keep a copy of the De-Ac certificate with you, cover the weapon, Specifically the trigger! in public. Leave it at home when visiting the bank! If asked by the Police or any other 'Official' asks you to show them in a public place REFUSE!!!!!!!!!! Tell them you will take them out of there cases and show them, In a NON PUBLIC PLACE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 I believe only the breach and trigger mechanism need covering in public ,but i am no expert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Marmite!! Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 I believe only the breach and trigger mechanism need covering in public ,but i am no expert. The whole weapon... unless you like being shot at:shake: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tony B Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Honestly the law only states the 'Trigger mechanism'. Goes back to those happy days when pistols were legal and could be carried in a holster. Best thing is a couple of black plastic bags, then no one knows what you are carrying, a rifle slip is rather distinctive . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Chrisg Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 If you're carrying a copy of the deact certificate mark it COPY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 The whole weapon... unless you like being shot at:shake: I wasnt suggesting it would be a good idea not to cover up Lee. i also have all pioneer tools bolted on because sure as eggs are eggs one day i am going to be told how easy it would be for someone to use one of them as a weapon,pos against me,then i can invite them to do so. i think if a succesfull case can be brought against us ,ie carrying what could be offensive weapons,it will be ,So dont make it easy,bolt up.:-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 If you're carrying a copy of the deact certificate mark it COPY Again no expert but i thought you dont need a certificate but the weapon has to have proof marks,i know it makes sense to have a certificate just a point,anybody.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tony B Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 The important wording in a lot of legislation is 'Good Reason' - If you are going to an organised event, know the adress and name of the place and who the organiser is. Entry forms etc are very useful. Normally if your stopped it will be for some other reason, such as a dead bulb, or pure curiosity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Marmite!! Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 19 Carrying firearm in a public place A person commits an offence if, without lawful authority or reasonable excuse (the proof whereof lies on him) he has with him in a public place (a)a loaded shot gun, (b)an air weapon (whether loaded or not), ©any other firearm (whether loaded or not) together with ammunition suitable for use in that firearm, or (d)an imitation firearm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tony B Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 As Snapper point out 'You to prove'. almost unique in english law. you ARE guilty prove inoccence. Hence as much oficial paperwork with you as possible. As for marking De Ac copys clearly . Makes god sense . Note the wording on the bottom of all De Ac Certificates: Forging a de-activation certificate could constitue an offence under the Forgery and Counterfeiting Act 1981. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Marmite!! Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Note the wording on the bottom of all De Ac Certificates: Forging a de-activation certificate could constitue an offence under the Forgery and Counterfeiting Act 1981. That's why you must always mark it a copy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ArtistsRifles Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 On that note - and to satisfy idle curiosity only - what's needed to replace a mislaid deac certificate?? Can you just represent the deac to an approved source (i.e. an armourers) or what?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Marmite!! Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 On that note - and to satisfy idle curiosity only - what's needed to replace a mislaid deac certificate?? Can you just represent the deac to an approved source (i.e. an armourers) or what?? Yes but it will cost you about £40.. maybe more now? but a deac cert is not a legal requirement, you're ok if the proof marks a clearly visable.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ArtistsRifles Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Thanks Lee - with 3 PKT's floating about it's always nice to be sure about the certificates!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Marmite!! Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Thanks Lee - with 3 PKT's floating about it's always nice to be sure about the certificates!! As long as the work was carried out by Birmingham or London proof houses you will be ok.. You had them deactivated to order, right? then you must know the armourer & would think he would have a copy of the certs.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Yes but it will cost you about £40.. maybe more now? but a deac cert is not a legal requirement, you're ok if the proof marks a clearly visable.. Oi i asked that:-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Marmite!! Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Oi i asked that:-D Sorry mate missed that one... go to the Top of the Class:yay: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 :yay::yay::yay:Hooray Fanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ArtistsRifles Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 As long as the work was carried out by Birmingham or London proof houses you will be ok.. You had them deactivated to order, right? then you must know the armourer & would think he would have a copy of the certs.. Correct for 10 points sir!! Thats why I said I was asking out of idle curiosity!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 LeeEnfield Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 On that note - and to satisfy idle curiosity only - what's needed to replace a mislaid deac certificate?? Can you just represent the deac to an approved source (i.e. an armourers) or what?? Seem to remember this question cropping up on another forum,.............and if I remember rightly, the concensus is loss of deac cert is bad news if you've an early deac..........to gat another cert, it'd have to be brought up to 'new' deac spec,.........ie very few moving parts. No doubt, if I've remembered wrongly, someone will post......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Supposing I wanted to mount a De-Ac on a vehicle, would I need a licence for it? Would it have to be taken off in public? Would I have to notify the rozzers etc?
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