antarmike Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I have to fix it first!!! still waiting for the intermediate plate to arrive!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thor698 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 I have to fix it first!!! still waiting for the intermediate plate to arrive!!! thats not a light job:sweat:i can remember when i done mine:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gps Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 still you are lucky ,i have got to take out the engine to do mine:shake: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thor698 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 still you are lucky ,i have got to take out the engine to do mine:shake: that makes light work with the jcb:cool2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 still you are lucky ,i have got to take out the engine to do mine:shake: Taking the engine out of mine would have been easier. I wish I had chosen that route now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiomike7 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Taking the engine out of mine would have been easier. I wish I had chosen that route now. That's what I thought Mike, surely taking a C6 out of a space usually occupied by a C8 cannot be that difficult:confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 (edited) The space isn't normally occupied by a C8, My Antar is a Model R6 (C6T) not a mark3. You couldn't get a C8 into my chassis, which isn't the same as a Mk3. My transmission is totally different, and cross members don't fall in the same place. To get the engine out means taking out the Radiator, power steering pump and propshaft, first cross member, which means pulling bolts on the front spring mounting, The rad guard has to come out to get the Rad out. A larger amount of the cab floor out than is needed if the gearbox comes out. Front air couplings and pipes have to come off. I can't remember how much else We had do to get the engine out out. It is still a fairly major job. The rear enginge mounts aren't exactly easy to get to. The manual says the front bumper has to come off, but there is about 3/4" to play with, and it you are careful, the bumper stays in place. Manual says alterntive method to get engine out, is the take the cab off then lift it and the maingearbox out vertically... Edited February 19, 2009 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 (edited) When you take the C8 out of a Mk 3 you are presumably taking the clutch with it. In the Mk3 only the clutch mounts to the engine, then a propshaft connects to the main and Auxiliary boxes. (You can't really take the Engine out and leave the Mk3 clutch behind. there is nothing left to support it ) This means once the prop is out you can tip the C8 front end up to get it out past the front crossmember. In the C6T Antar, if you take the engine out by splitting the engine from the gearbox, you are leaving behind the Clutch release arms in the in its bell housing, and the main gearbox rigidly bolted to the back of this bell housing . This means you cannot lift the front of the engine, until the clutch, bolted to the flywheel is fully drawn of the input shaft from the gearbox. The Engine has to be drawn forward 12 inches until the input shaft is out of the clutch release bearing support tube, and only then will it tip up at the front. This extra 12 inches of forward movement needed before tipping takes up all the length saving of the C6 compared to the C8. Edited February 19, 2009 by antarmike I am an idiot and I got it wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 You can see why Jeeps are so popular :-D :-D :n00b: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thor698 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 the bigger the toy the bigger the hammer:cool2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gps Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 You can see why Jeeps are so popular :-D :-D :n00b: yes you can put them on your drive with room to spare and cheaper to run but no so much fun:yay: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 (edited) When you take the C8 out of a Mk 3 you are presumably taking the clutch with it. In the Mk3 only the clutch mounts to the engine, then a propshaft connects to the main and Auxiliary boxes. (You can't really take the Engine out and leave the Mk3 clutch behind. there is nothing left to support it ) This means once the prop is out you can tip the C8 front end up to get it out past the front crossmember. In the C6T Antar, if you take the engine out by splitting the engine from the gearbox, you are leaving behind the Clutch release arms in the in its bell housing, and the main gearbox rigidly bolted to the back of this bell housing . This means you cannot lift the front of the engine, until the clutch, bolted to the flywheel is fully drawn off the input shaft from the gearbox. The Engine has to be drawn forward 12 inches until the input shaft is out of the clutch release bearing support tube, and only then will it tip up at the front. This extra 12 inches of forward movement needed before tipping takes up all the length saving of the C6 compared to the C8. You are also talking heavier items. Roills C6T is 1250 Kg, Radiator 93 Kg, etc, Taking the gearbox of the back is only 312 Kg, and I needed to draw out the clutch operating cross shaft, to remove the clutch operating arms for remedial work, and the cross shaft wont come out with the gearbox still in the chassis. (I would have to have mag drilled an 1 1/4" hole in the chassis to allow it through, and I didn't want to put holes in the chassis that shouldn't be there.) Edited February 19, 2009 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thor698 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 hi graham have you done your front axle?:cool2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiomike7 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Thanks Mike, Didn't realise they were so different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsk460 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I been told to post you some pics!:cool2: So here one from last summer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 X 6 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I been told to post you some pics!:cool2: So here one from last summer... Thank you very much indeed ! An excellent picture and what a lovely trailer. Seeing this has cheered me up for the whole day. Have you owned your Scammell for very long ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsk460 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I've had it a while. I've some flim clips of it working but they are 3gp type flies of a mobile phone camera, and I cant seam to get them to load up on here??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsk460 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Another pic, but may already be on here- my mate 'big chris' has put a load of pics on in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thor698 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 nice pics:cool2: try http://photobucket.com/ for videos uploads:cool2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madrat Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 One for Gritineye! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nptimber Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Another pic, but may already be on here- my mate 'big chris' has put a load of pics on in the past. I think XSK460 was once owned by Paul (piggy)Thompson from Gretton nr Corby Northants have got some photos somewhere will try to find them this weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 One for Gritineye! Thanks Madrush, memories of a very pleasant show :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikeymatt Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 here is one of my scammells Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikeymatt Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 this is the one i am working on at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Welcome back Matt, How is the leg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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