Louie Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Hi everyone I think this is the right part of the forum for this topic. I've a small list of "A.M. Stores reference numbers" which I need to convert.. They are for the different lubricants on my vehicle. I need to know the modern types of oils and brake fluids instead of stores codes! Has anyone got a conversion chart of some sort? Kind regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 I don't know what era you are looking for, but there are some equivalents here: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie Posted April 17, 2020 Author Share Posted April 17, 2020 Sadly they're a bit too recent. I'm after the ww2 era ones. But thank you for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 If you let us know what the AM oil references are and for what vehicle that may help answering your question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie Posted April 17, 2020 Author Share Posted April 17, 2020 Hi Richard. Crossley FWD. Ref. Numbers are; 34A/35 34A/50,51 34A/77 Kind regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Louie said: Hi Richard. Crossley FWD. Ref. Numbers are; 34A/35 34A/50,51 34A/77 Kind regards I have a Joint Services Lubricant guide from the early 1960's and thought that might answer your questions, but there are no two figure numbers listed. Prefixes for RAF lubricants are 34A/, 34B/ and 34D/, but following number is 7 digits.. Sorry, drew a blank there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie Posted April 17, 2020 Author Share Posted April 17, 2020 Hi Richard. I appreciate your help either way. I wonder if the first two digits of your seven digit code would help? Have you got a photograph if your help page? I cannot find anything on the internet regarding my two number stores codes. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 34A is a little curious, I would have expected them to perhaps have been 34D. In AP 1086: 34A Aviation fuels & engine lubricants 34B Aircraft & airborne equipment lubricants 34C Ground & marine equipment lubricants 34D Vehicles & ground equipment lubricants 34E POL sampling, measuring etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie Posted April 17, 2020 Author Share Posted April 17, 2020 That is strange as it certainly isn't an aircraft! Its got 4 wheels atleast! Everything is so confusing on this truck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Indeed, I have some FAP 1086 from 1980s & 90s these are of course NATO Codified but the vocabulary section is maintained as the Domestic Management Code preceding the NSN. The entries at that stage under 34A are only aviation fuels. All the old favourite automotive lubricants are listed with 34D as the DMC. It does have some cross-reference sections to the "old reference" but most entries for this are blank. I have a 1954 RAF fuels & lubricants handbook. Unfortunately it is mainly concerned with fuel. I have some Defence Guides for POLs that predate Defence Standards, but shed no more light than Richard has found. I have a 1948 edition of AP 1086, its not very detailed, but I'll see what it says about section 34. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 If you could that would be brilliant. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 This is from AP 1086 Book 1 1949. You will see what you need to look for is AP 1086 Book 13 to get the detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 Thanks for your help again. I appreciate it. Do you know where I can find this book to get the details from. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Perhaps Hendon may a copy? These subsections of AP 1086 are very hard to come by, maybe someone on an aircraft restoration/collecting site might have something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatchFuzee Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 20 minutes ago, fv1609 said: maybe someone on an aircraft restoration/collecting site might have something? Key Aviation Forum. https://www.key.aero/forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 Thanks people for your help. I will try that forum. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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