10FM68 Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Were those RE RL Tippers in the convoy or are they from a 1(BR) Corps RCT Tipper Sqn? The top photo, of course, being RAF. The RCT had large quantities of tippers for supporting RE in route repair & maintenance and in providing hardcore for approaches to river xrossings etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ellis Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 2 hours ago, 10FM68 said: Were those RE RL Tippers in the convoy or are they from a 1(BR) Corps RCT Tipper Sqn? The top photo, of course, being RAF. The RCT had large quantities of tippers for supporting RE in route repair & maintenance and in providing hardcore for approaches to river crossings etc. I think the RCT had those Bridging Bedfords, to bring the pontoons up Top photo from my last is from the FVRDE catalogue of 1966, so generic. Middle photo is unit 2/78, a 2 Div Field squadron from Osnabruck, but long before my time The Ranger (Thorn EMI) also had mounts for the Stalwart/Bedford. We had a mount still in its crate at the back of the HQ MT Land Rover bays, until it was finally returned to RAOC in 82 or 83. I-Ranger-text-with-pictures.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10FM68 Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 I like the little chap sticking his head out of the radiator cap cover! Being sure about the CofG on an MGB always seemed to need a bit of luck. We used to use a tin triangle which could be hung on the top rail as an indicator, but that still assumes that you've got it right in the first place. Dummy Ranger mines were made of compressed compost - early attempts by the Army to be green and what happens... they get banned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Dwyer Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Of the British AP mines, I always rather liked the No7 Mk1 - Digbat. Not biodegradable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ellis Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 On 11/23/2023 at 7:16 PM, Adrian Dwyer said: Of the British AP mines, I always rather liked the No7 Mk1 - Digbat. Not biodegradable. Weren't they the one with the arming key, like a U shaped Allen key ? And the Carrot AP. Ranger made life so much easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Dwyer Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Drill version of the carrot-shaped ELSIE ap mine. Something odd about a laying drill that required the application of downward force via boot. A 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Dwyer Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 On 11/25/2023 at 2:10 PM, Mark Ellis said: Weren't they the one with the arming key, like a U shaped Allen key ? And the Carrot AP. Ranger made life so much easier. The U shaped Allen key was Ranger-related. Image from Wiki. A 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ellis Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Adrian Dwyer said: Drill version of the carrot-shaped ELSIE ap mine. Something odd about a laying drill that required the application of downward force via boot. A Wasn't there a longer carrot one as well? So long ago now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10FM68 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 6 hours ago, Adrian Dwyer said: Drill version of the carrot-shaped ELSIE ap mine. Something odd about a laying drill that required the application of downward force via boot. A Note the removable metal detector ring! Something else which would be questionable nowadays (probably fortunately!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Dwyer Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 As a further aside, the images below show the empty plastic case of a Spanish P-4-B mine - recovered from The Falklands (minefield 22). The circular fragment of foil is the Spanish equivalent of the metal ring on the ELSIE. Something of a detection challenge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Dwyer Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 5:03 PM, Mark Ellis said: Wasn't there a longer carrot one as well? So long ago now The No6 mine was shaped a bit like a carrot; and significantly longer than ELSIE. The image is from <https://mjlmilitaria.com/rare-british-no-6-ap-mine/> 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ellis Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 57 minutes ago, Adrian Dwyer said: The No6 mine was shaped a bit like a carrot; and significantly longer than ELSIE. The image is from <https://mjlmilitaria.com/rare-british-no-6-ap-mine/> Yes, I think that was the carrot mine I was mainly thinking of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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