robin craig Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Dear All, the series land rovers, lightweights and 109s etc had a demountable FFR set up with btteries underneath and latches to secure into the vehicle and extendable antennae mounts. Were the units interchangeable between 109 and lightweights? R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 lozzaboy Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Both set ups were totally different as far as I know, the Lightweight units were built as one combined unit that could be lifted out as one, where as 109 (and series 2/2a swb FFR's) were separate parts that could be removed one bit at at time, eg radio table, and then requiring the mounts and battery holders to be unbolted too. Couple of shots of the set up in the back of my SWB series 2a FFR to help show what I mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 g0ozs Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Robin I thought that both the separate bench and dexion and the demountable unitary radio station could be fitted in the lightweight - certainly I have seen both in restored vehicles - I cant recall seeing a unitary station in the 1/4 ton and 3/4 ton FFRs but cant see a reason why it would not have been possible to fit in a GS as a temporary measure - whether it was done is another matter of course. You can find a pic of the unitary station at: http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?31588-landrover-Lightweight-Unitary-Radio-Station-For-Sale&highlight=unitary+radio Looking in the back of a landrover the ribbed battery box is an easy way to tell the difference. Regards Iain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ruxy Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 (edited) The "Unitary Kit" is intended for 12 volt Lightweight if a FFR is not available , just that TUAAM would not be available on the front wings & you could not charge on the highway,. AFAIK in Clansman days you would use a Hopkins genny set with 12 volt L'wt & / or "ground" role. IIRC Hopkins were not around in Larkspur days ?? Onan probably ? http://www.greenmachinesurplus.com/hopkinsgenerator-set1428volt300500wpurpose-and-planning-information-1605-p.asp Edited October 21, 2014 by ruxy Onan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 robin craig Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 The question was generated as a local sale may yield two ex Lightweight FFR unitary stations. My best mate has recently acquired a somewhat civilianised S3 FFR and seeing as how tripping over anything British military out here is about as common as the proverbial hens teeth I am encouraging him to buy them. Hopefully if they wont go in his S3 109 then I can save them for someone else just by having somewhere to store them. Maybe even just a display of the unitary set up on its own would be a hoot. Anyway, I'm off to sharpen my pencil and practice my best "ooh t'aint worth much, even at scrap price I would be doing you a favour chum" routine in the mirror! Thanks for the input will report back later R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 fv1609 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 There was a conversion to fit the installation in 3/4 Ton Trailers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ruxy Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Royal Marines , with a bit of luck you should be able to view the photograph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ruxy Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Info as posted on Ex-MLRA Forum by - RM Lightweight Postby mastigo4 » Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:58 pm http://forum.emlra.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=8665&p=57094&hilit=unitary+trailer#p57094 EMER Wheeled Vehicles U207 /8 Modification Instruction No. 12 gives instructions and plans to install the Unitary Radio Kit in a 15 cwt. Sankey trailer. This was for the Royal Marines, to allow use of the Land Rover for general services. It included provision for hood-sticks & hood. In the EMER installation the URK was fitted facing the rear. In this picture it faces forward, so this was presumably a local modification. The radio set is a C42, possibly a C45: the Antenna Tuning Unit is mounted on the canopy. There may be something mounted on the Dexion, but it is hard to tell. This is the first photo I have seen of a URK in a Sankey. If anyone knows of others I would be most interested. Incidentally I did once mount my vehicle's URK in a Sankey, before I knew of the EMER. It fitted well, and I am a little surprised this arrangement was not used more generally. Alan Knell 13FM87 TRUCK UTILITY FFR 1/2 TON ROVER SERIES 3 1625.0778 2320-99-893-2847 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 fv1609 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 This EMER was first issued in July 1977 & superceded with an issue in May 1978. It is quoted for Helicopter Support Role (RM) but I am not clear whether this is the version of trailer to be modified or the status after it has been modified. The reason given is "to give greater flexibility in the tactical role" which isn't very helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 robin craig Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 Brilliant info, thanks to you all. That photo of the RM set up is just grand. No one would believe it unless you saw the photo. Classic R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ruxy Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Be fine once hitched up , until then - it would take a 4 man Commando to shift it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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the series land rovers, lightweights and 109s etc had a demountable FFR set up with btteries underneath and latches to secure into the vehicle and extendable antennae mounts.
Were the units interchangeable between 109 and lightweights?
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