Mark Pearson Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 I have some confusion regarding suspension units I have on a particular British Made Carrier, picture supplied. I have also supplied a picture of the Assie LP type, which is different. Are mine from a Loyd carrier, or Vickers tank, or a different early type ? Much help appreciated. My carrier suspension below Australian LP type suspension below. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Mark, I've seen wartime photos of Loyds using those bogies, I think they were a version rushed into production to help Britain out post Dunkirk. I haven't seem them on the later mass produced Loyds. You will note that the foundry has been made to cast 'not for tanks' on the side, perhaps as the load bearing capacity ls suitable only for Carriers rather than LTs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 interesting, I haven't seen that type of swing arm before ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Pearson Posted August 25, 2014 Author Share Posted August 25, 2014 I have 2 British made carriers with these suspension units, and seem to have been on a very long time as Im having to cut the axel on the other carrier. I have been told that these are very early type units as the carriers are both mortar carriers issued to the NZ military in 1941. I have also been told thay are LP units ??. They do have a TL number, so maybe they are British made, but very early production ? Just wanted to find out who made them ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin powles Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Mark, the suspension is British made and most likely is the suspension from new, i have seen the "not for tanks" on other early British unrestored original carriers also on the front idler bracket aswell. it belongs to the carrier it on. hope this helps. Kevin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben.. Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 It's a Loyd part. The part number is listed in the Loyd parts list. It's not early, the clue is the size of the number 13*** and the date 1941. Early British parts would have a much lower part number and a 193* date. It also isn't mentioned in the early British carrier parts list. The British production was suffering from German bombing, this is one of the reasons carrier production was started in Canada. I think a batch of carriers were ready and the only units available (perhaps due to bombing) where the Loyd ones, they function and fit exactly the same as the carrier type, they just look different. I think this is one reason for the non folding gunners armour, again this isn't an early feature as early carriers all have folding armour. It was just easier and quicker to make the fixed type If the date fits the carrier, keep them on. Strictly speaking they're not correct as they're a Loyd part but it's all part of the story. They may have left the factory fitted to that vehicle or perhaps swapped in service by the Kiwis, they had Lyods too. Either way it's up to you, it won't effect the use of the vehicle, just it's appearance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Pearson Posted August 25, 2014 Author Share Posted August 25, 2014 Yes, that makes sense, as the carriers also have the fixed frontal armour passenger side. All 3 are Mortar carrier, shipped to NZ in 41. I do think the British used whatever they could get their hands on to make up the order and ship them out. Quite a rare, and nice feature I guess. I do have the contract number, so would anyone be able to trace parts fitted ? It's a Loyd part. The part number is listed in the Loyd parts list. It's not early, the clue is the size of the number 13*** and the date 1941. Early British parts would have a much lower part number and a 193* date. It also isn't mentioned in the early British carrier parts list. The British production was suffering from German bombing, this is one of the reasons carrier production was started in Canada. I think a batch of carriers were ready and the only units available (perhaps due to bombing) where the Loyd ones, they function and fit exactly the same as the carrier type, they just look different. I think this is one reason for the non folding gunners armour, again this isn't an early feature as early carriers all have folding armour. It was just easier and quicker to make the fixed type If the date fits the carrier, keep them on. Strictly speaking they're not correct as they're a Loyd part but it's all part of the story. They may have left the factory fitted to that vehicle or perhaps swapped in service by the Kiwis, they had Lyods too. Either way it's up to you, it won't effect the use of the vehicle, just it's appearance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Child Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Just stumbled on this wikipedia article on the Schofield tank. The photo shows the same type of suspension (I think) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schofield_tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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