Ivor Ramsden Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I'm in the process of finding funds for the restoration of the museum's Morris CDSW Bofors Tractor. Whilst scouting around for ideas I found this article: http://www.1914.org/news/wartime-bus-to-be-restored-with-750000-lottery-grant/ Try as I might, I can't see how it is possible to spend three quarters of a million pounds on restoring what is in reality quite a basic vehicle which is still pretty much complete and original! This is the kind of money that's spent on restoring a Spitfire to airworthiness, starting with an identity plate. I don't begrudge them the money and I'm sure the bus will look magnificent but, by heavens, I wish I had the imagination to come up with such an expensive scheme and succeed in getting such a massive amount of funding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 It's Transport For London. (Nothig more than that really) Though to be fair they have spent umpteen thousands to give me and all my colleagues a bit of expensive printed card and a little badge saying 'Year of the Bus'. (SShse) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Grundy Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 On that link there was not one mention of the actual bus in the Comments. there was just people burbling on about the usual horror and their ancestors who were there, it is getting tedious...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 On that link there was not one mention of the actual bus in the Comments. there was just people burbling on about the usual horror and their ancestors who were there, it is getting tedious...... TfL's own magazine is the scourde for the quote £250,000, so far, spent on restoration including a large unspecified amaount for six bolts from Australia! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Grundy Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 TfL's own magazine is the scourde for the quote £250,000, so far, spent on restoration including a large unspecified amaount for six bolts from Australia! There will be some dosh made on the back of this, yet again spending other peoples money. Twas ever thus..... Do you know if there will be detailed accounts showing where the funds have gone; labour, parts, materials etc ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosrec Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Its the same as that Dornier raising load of people shout long and loud enough bull**** you win in the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 (edited) There will be some dosh made on the back of this, yet again spending other peoples money. Twas ever thus.....Do you know if there will be detailed accounts showing where the funds have gone; labour, parts, materials etc ? Don't forget to add on the significant consultation and administrative costs associated with a Lottery Funding application like this. The additional and complex work required to ensure compliance with funding conditions, both at application stage and throughout the actual project, will likely require the services of a funding consultant and will add very considerably to the cost of the project. Hardly a good comparison, but I think it more than doubled the cost of a local village green project. The restoration is also on a tight timescale which will put pressure/risk on contractors - this too comes at a price. Edited April 12, 2014 by N.O.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosrec Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Don't forget to add on the significant consultation and administrative costs associated with a Lottery Funding application like this. The additional and complex work required to ensure compliance with funding conditions, both at application stage and throughout the actual project, will likely require the services of a funding consultant and will add very considerably to the cost of the project. Hardly a good comparison, but I think it more than doubled the cost of a local village green project. The restoration is also on a tight timescale which will put pressure/risk on contractors - this too comes at a price. the worlds gone ape**** and people believe it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeePig Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Well, one might have a different perspective if one were really interested in buses. For me, I am just glad that someone is interested enough to put the effort in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Ramsden Posted April 13, 2014 Author Share Posted April 13, 2014 .....The restoration is also on a tight timescale which will put pressure/risk on contractors - this too comes at a price. Some good, if depressing, points there N.O.S., but the timescale was reasonable at the time when the funding was given. The article was published in April 2013. I must live in a different financial world to some people. This reminds me of when we did a presentation about our museum to a new departmental chief exec in the Isle of Man Government. After explaining what we did with our volunteer force, we explained our finances to him. He pointed out that we'd missed a zero from our balance sheet. "No," I explained, "Our annual turnover really is £25,000." He simply couldn't believe that it was possible to achieve anything with such a sum. I worked for 30 years in local government and IOM government so I really should have expected this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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