Goncalo Mendes Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Can anyone help in identifying this fuel trailer? source: http://www.modellismopiu.it/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=103596&forum=4&start=0&viewmode=flat&order=0 source: http://www.modellismopiu.it/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=103596&forum=4&start=20&viewmode=flat&order=0 I think it is a US made, and was supplied to some european allies in the 1950/1960's. Thanks! G_Mendes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtskull Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 That's an Autocar. Sorry, I am not knowledgeable enough to give you specific model details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 That's an Autocar. Sorry, I am not knowledgeable enough to give you specific model details. Federal :whistle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtskull Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Federal :whistle: I beg your pardon. External differences subtle but significant :red: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 None of which is relevant as Goncalo is asking about the trailer...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I think the semi trailer was made by the company heil of AMERICA it would either type F2A or F2B is that of any help REGARDS WALLY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goncalo Mendes Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 (edited) Thanks for the info! It looks that some one else was looking for it also! http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?3672-Some-real-USAAF-heavy-weight-vehicles!!&p=193939#post193939 As for the trailer, the F2A is WW2. I never heard about the F2B! G_Mendes Edited March 19, 2013 by Goncalo Mendes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goncalo Mendes Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) Went searching for the F2B... And I find some info in the " List of U.S. Military Vehicle Supply Catalog Designations "G" Numbers". G678 - F2B Semitrailer, 2,000 Gal. Fuel Servicing, HeilCo. In the "Standard catalogue of US Military Vehicles", by David Doyle, (2 ed; pag 297) a photo shows a trailer type that I seen photos before, and remember that at least two survivors still exists today, one of them in restoration. http://pierreddy.blogspot.pt/2012/06/meeting-aerien-de-florennes.html It's painted as an US Army Air forces F2A fuel semi-trailer, but I suspect that this specific trailer (F2B) was intended to army units, as I never had seen a photo of it with air force markings. The TM for this, TM 9-891 Semitrailer, 6-ton Payload, 10-ton Gross, 2-wheel, Fuel Tank, 2,000-gallon, is available online, and don't mention the use by the air force. Note that the rear compartiment lacks the pump systems. http://archive.org/details/TM9891 The F2A has an angled rear, the rest looking identical. source: http://www.usaaf.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=28&view=next source: http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/mustang/mustangtest.html G_Mendes Edited March 26, 2013 by Goncalo Mendes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 .... It's painted as an US Army Air forces F2A fuel semi-trailer, but I suspect that this specific trailer (F2B) was intended to army units, as I never had seen a photo of it with air force markings. ...... I reckon you're right there, Goncalo - but it does look nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goncalo Mendes Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 I reckon you're right there, Goncalo - but it does look nice! Thanks N.O.S.! To me it looks very nice too! And it is rare, I only know of two of them In the "Standard catalogue of US Military Vehicles", by David Doyle, (2 ed; pag 296), David Doyle mention that this (the F2B semitrailer tanker), was based on one developed for an Army Air Force refueller, that I understand to be the F2A , itself developed from the prewar F2 tanker semitrailer. By the way, anyone know how is going the restoration of the F2 semitrailer owned by "Fleetmaster"? I would love to see some pics! Best regards, G_Mendes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goncalo Mendes Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 (edited) Find a 1950/1960 refuel semitrailer, very similar, but with two wheel axes. Maybe the two types were made to a standard design, but with different sizes/use. (fighter bases, heavy aircraft bases?) Source: http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/U1088258/fuel-truck-being-loaded-into-usaf-hercules source: Other photo for comparison of their use. It is a real possibility that this is the "sucessor" of the "F2/F2A ", and the above one is the sucessor to the "F1/F1A" fuel tanker trailers, of WW2 time. Source http://www.modellismopiu.it/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=103596&forum=4&start=20&viewmode=flat&order=0 The rear doors and compartiments shapes look very similar. This trailer identification is a mistery too, so all help is welcome! G_Mendes Edited March 29, 2013 by Goncalo Mendes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goncalo Mendes Posted March 29, 2013 Author Share Posted March 29, 2013 (edited) Here is another pic of other larger tanker: source: http://www.chinalakealumni.org/1958/1958mo.htm#thumb G_Mendes Edited March 29, 2013 by Goncalo Mendes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Aha - a penny dropped. I wonder if the first photo on this thread is a Navy tanker? (AN registration?) I have a manual somewhere for a twin axle one which is very similar. I'll try to find it. No idea if it is WW2era or not. Here is a post war single axle tanker, almost certainly USAF. Note the frameless construction: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goncalo Mendes Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 (edited) Hello NOS, Great photos! Thanks! can you post more? :-) I believe that the manual that you mention is for the WWII army version of the fuel tranker, the F2B, is available for free in the net. The trailer registration in the first photo of the tread is "AM" (not AN) is for "Aeronautica Militar" , something like "Army Aeronautics/Aviation". In the first times, the portuguese army and the navy had their dependent aviation branches, with propriatary registrations. The trailer in your photos can be a ww2 version also, (maybe a simpler F2A, perhaps with a different rear pump housing and hoses reel). I had seen one that looked like it before, but your is a frameless one, completely new to me: http://g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=209350 http://g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=208725&p=1223668#p1223668 Maybe the pumps/hoses reel where from this shorter version. By the way NOS, how is the Federal wrecker restoration? G_Mendes Edited April 6, 2013 by Goncalo Mendes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark37 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 On 3/29/2013 at 7:38 AM, Goncalo Mendes said: Here is another pic of other larger tanker: http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc375/G_Mendes/RCE-580000-011_zps812ba2be.jpg source: http://www.chinalakealumni.org/1958/1958mo.htm#thumb G_Mendes Looks like the Heil F6 5000gal unit with the Continenal 4 cylinder pump motor we used to train USAF recruits at the ATC Fuels Specialist Tech School on Amarillo AFB 1964-67. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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