paul connor Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Is this as a vehicle should look? what is this ment to be? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/33/Humber_Pig_FV1612.jpg/800px-Humber_Pig_FV1612.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 A Humber Pig Mk 1/2? Kind of half way between? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Is this as a vehicle should look? what is this ment to be? Well it ain't a FV1612! It is a Mk 2 Pig , it should not have a jerrycan holder nor should it have the canvas on the roof from a Mk1 Pig. As far as its legitimate history goes it is extremely rare, in fact it is unique. Any takers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 As far as its legitimate history goes it is extremely rare, in fact it is unique. Any takers? Well no takers. Clues, it has 4 extractor fans & something is missing at the front. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Well no takers. Clues, it has 4 extractor fans & something is missing at the front. Why? It looks as though half the back is missing :? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 There's no bull bar at the front is there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 It looks as though half the back is missing :? I know what you mean, its just that putting that silly Mk 1 canvas on the back does make it look odd as it is a Mk2. I have seen this vehicle a couple of times before & took pics because, despite the owner additions, has a unique underlying history. But to see it like this, umh shall we say embarrassing - worse is to come. As this was exported a few years ago I feel I can speak fairly freely about it now. (In fairness to the last UK owner, he was not responsible for all the nonsense fitted to it & was sold it in good faith) The canvas on Mk 1 provided an insulating layer of air over the armour, being supported on a rail around the roof edge. Obviously this was for use it hot climates. N.Ireland is not not generally in a tropical climate. But besides serving no purpose it would be at risk to catching fire in riots, so often you see owners put a camo net on their Mk2 which again is a fire risk & a camo net serves no purpose driving around the streets of Belfast & Londonderry! I'll post a side view in a moment, so you can see a total now of 4 extractor fans, why so many Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 There's no bull bar at the front is there There is in this photo, but there's something different about it. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/fv1620/Oddpig02.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I'll post a side view in a moment, so you can see a total now of 4 extractor fans, why so many Was it fitted out as the Command vehicle for the Green Archer? the extra fans being for cooling the equipment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Was it fitted out as the Command vehicle for the Green Archer? the extra fans being for cooling the equipment Well no, Mk 2 was solely for IS duties in NI. But you are right there is equipment in there that needs cooling (& ventilating). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 NOW its got a bullbar on the front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FV601 (R.I.P.) Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 And the Specsaver observation prize goes to Drumroll Mark :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: (only kidding mate ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 NOW its got a bullbar on the front Yes but compare it with: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/fv1620/Ram01.jpg[/img] Somewhere I have a full frontal of it but not found it so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 And the Specsaver observation prize goes to Drumroll Mark :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: (only kidding mate ) I like that once the wife read it out for me :schocked: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I'm probably even blinder than Mark - but to me it looks like the dodgy one is sitting too high on it's suspension???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 One of the bars is missing out of the bull bar on the later photo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul connor Posted November 21, 2006 Author Share Posted November 21, 2006 Think what other roles they were used for in NI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 (edited) It was one of 36 Pigs fitted with the "Squirt" anti-riot chemical irritant discharger...??? Edited August 1, 2008 by Marmite!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I'm probably even blinder than Mark - but to me it looks like the dodgy one is sitting too high on it's suspension???? Yes well spotted Pike, I mean Neil. Adjustment of the torsion bars can vary the height by 4in. So in its original role it would have been heavier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 One of the bars is missing out of the bull bar on the later photo... Absolutely correct, it was not easy to see in that shot. But any ideas why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 It was one of 36 Pigs fitted with the "Squirt" anti-riot chemical irritant discharger...??? Good idea but no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Good idea but no. Dam thought I'd cracked it, thought it was this one.. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/lsm/dhmg/humb002.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13BK76 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Hi All Forgot i'd registered for this forum ages ago, just never posted, lurked instead. Any chance that it was for the wheelbarrow, i know that the one pic i can lay my hand on of the carrier has at least the 2 front fans. unfortunately all my pics and books are packed away in storage while i move. ( don't explain the missing bar tho :?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Dam thought I'd cracked it, thought it was this one.. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/lsm/dhmg/humb002.html Yes its amazing how things get around I provided the owner with that pic of his actual pig having a squirt. But anyway this baby isn't a squirter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 (edited) Hi All Forgot I'd registered for this forum ages ago, just never posted, lurked instead. Any chance that it was for the wheelbarrow, i know that the one pic i can lay my hand on of the carrier has at least the 2 front fans. unfortunately all my pics and books are packed away in storage while i move. ( don't explain the missing bar tho :?) Hello Gareth. Have a look at the missing bit of the bar, you can see that if it was there it would go right across the headlight. Look at the configuration of a normal ram the bars are uniformly spaced, except in front of the headlights. But on the mystery vehicle the larger gap is at the bottom. The answer is this never had a barricade ram, but someone felt it should have one. So a copy was made out of aluminium tubing. Unfortunately it was fitted to the pig upside down! So the gap for the headlights was at the bottom. As the headlights were now partially obstructed by the second from the top tube. A bit of it was cut off at each end. I am sorry I can't find the frontal view, I am not witholding it to make anymore difficult. Anyway that establishes that the pig despite being a Mk2 was not fitted with a ram. AFAIK there were only two groups of Mk2 pigs that had no ram. Maybe the rear view helps. Think about the step: Edited August 1, 2008 by Marmite!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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