question Replica vs, original parts

[robin craig]

In some time distant, people will be looking at MVs that have been in private ownership and working on them.

 

As those who know British vehicles know, the parts are for the most part are marked by an FV number, which gives a clue to its originality.

 

In the collection I have at times been tasked with making replacement parts or modifications that bolt on for some purpose ie a searchlight mount. When doing these I know that I will be the last person to touch them and if I croak or the vehicle gets sold and that modification will be looked at by others and wonder if it is pukka.

 

To aid that determination I always mark the parts in such a way with stamped letters to make sure it is clear that it is not original. Does anyone else do this?

 

R

[ferrettkitt]

I've heard of someone doing the opposite marking them with an FV number to make them look original counterfeit?

[robin craig]

There will always be scallywags doing that, regretably

 

R

[antarmike]

I've heard of someone doing the opposite marking them with an FV number to make them look original counterfeit?

simply remanufacture...what is the problem?

[Tony B]

Always a question of 'How Original'. You can bet by the time it comes out of the factory and spends a couple of years in service a lot of parts have been replaced. Like the axe, it's original with three new hafts and the heads ben replaced. Terry Prattchet (Discworld again) Rhys, the Low King of the Dwarf's describe his Grand father's axe (For DW afficinados, I'm following Dwarf Ettiquete!) 'the decoration may have been freshened a bit, but as it has changed slowly with love and care, who can say it is not my grandfather's axe?'

[woa2]

Always a question of 'How Original'. You can bet by the time it comes out of the factory and spends a couple of years in service a lot of parts have been replaced. Like the axe, it's original with three new hafts and the heads ben replaced. Terry Prattchet (Discworld again) Rhys, the Low King of the Dwarf's describe his Grand father's axe (For DW afficinados, I'm following Dwarf Ettiquete!) 'the decoration may have been freshened a bit, but as it has changed slowly with love and care, who can say it is not my grandfather's axe?'

 

Anyone remember Trigger's Broom on 'Only Fools and Horses'? He had been using it for 20 years with only 3 new heads and 2 new handles.

[ferrettkitt]

simply remanufacture...what is the problem?

 

If the parts are as good or better than the original no problem the problem begins when a bodger has been at play

[Sean N]

Like the axe, it's original with three new hafts and the heads ben replaced. Terry Prattchet (Discworld again) Rhys, the Low King of the Dwarf's describe his Grand father's axe ... 'the decoration may have been freshened a bit, but as it has changed slowly with love and care, who can say it is not my grandfather's axe?'

 

Anyone remember Trigger's Broom on 'Only Fools and Horses'? He had been using it for 20 years with only 3 new heads and 2 new handles.

 

And both are variations on George Washington's axe... and I bet even that wasn't the first use of the phrase. Harald Hardrada's axe, perhaps...?

[steveo578]

Sean N

And both are variations on George Washington's axe...

 

George Washington's axe as in the cherry tree incident is a completely mythical story, but perhaps all none original parts should be stamped "George Washington" in memory of the honesty story.

[Tony B]

Hey, who cares!! The love of the vehicles and the fun of owning and operating them. The tears and tearing of hair, the pure joy of some of things they enable us to do. Don't give a monkeys, just love owning and driving the Dodge and the Land Rovers!

[robin craig]

Tony B and others, I think your missing the point im making which is I try to make sure as a temporary custodian of these vehicles their originality or lack of it is apparent to future owners who may think it was an MOD modification.

 

Thats all

 

R

[Tony B]

No Robin, you are right. We all hold the vehicles in trust. It is right to try and be as true as possible to the original. But the old girls wear out and kit has to be made or adapted. The result depends on the integrity of the person who is the custodian. Like old bulidings things change. Just make sure the changes are logged. Some are rivet counters, others are quite happy to fit a diffrent engine or other major mods.

[steveo578]

I admire Robins intergrity and possibly using a different shade of eau de nil works in the short term but it certainly would need some form of "not the genuine/original article stamp" in the long term. I suppose the important thing is to alter the none original component to fit and avoid any alteration the original structure or mechanisms.