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Seems to be a mixed message - is he restoring or selling? And if it's pictures he's after, he only needs to pick up Military Machine International from a few months ago (April 2010) with Tim's (Great War Truck) article in it.

I have intermitant problems and always assumed it was something to do with waiting for an open link on a passing satelite or somefink... But there again I know nothing about the technology. Sooner or later access is obtained, so I just live with it. I'll must try those other links and see what happens.

Isn't this an airfield fuel rig? http://www.cckw.org/airfeld_fuel_truck.htm Well worth preserving.

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Well said Mike. Almost right. Statutory Instruments, otherwise known as secondary legislation, does form part of the law. SIs include 'orders' as well as 'regulations', and as you say are made under enabling provisions in the governing Act. They are normally made by the relevant Minister but sometimes they are devolved to the Permanent Secretary of the relevant department, such as the Treasury. C&U regs are made by the relevant Secretary of State (the Minister). Acts set the broad framework of the law. SIs set out the detail. SIs are subject to alternative scrutiny procedures by Parliament. In short, they either must be subject to debate and scrutiny, alternatively they are only examined if a member 'prays' against them. The procedure is set out in the governing Act. All law - Acts and SIs - are open to interpretation. It is for Courts to state what the law is. The ruling of a lower Court can be overturned by a higher one. In short, nobody can be certain what the law is until the Supreme Court (previously the House of Lords) has delivered a judgment. But things rarely get that far and the judgment of a lower court is normally accepted. Indeed in some cases the law may be so plain that leave to appeal to a higher court is refused.

Of course it could just show that mistakes have been made in the past - entirely possible if the process is largely self-certified (I've no idea what the process is) or if the vehicle has features that are only marginally different to the regs. At the moment no one is able to be categorical as to which side of the line the vehicle falls. As an aside, how easy would it be to identify similar vehicles on their database?

The nearest marque club would be the Early Ford V8 club http://www.earlyfordv8.co.uk/

At the risk of repeating points made by others, the DVLA are not making up the rules as they go along, they are applying the rules based on the advice they've recieved, which is quite reasonable. And it's a case specific decision, not one that applies to MVs/armour/tracked vehicles in general. They would have to review the decision should further information come into their possession. Although it's disapointing they can't give you a full list of areas they may dispute, they do mention two Regulations in particular. If you can show they are wrong on those areas it may expose what other concerns they may have.

The hobby of preserving MVs isn't being legislated out of existence. The issue is whether a private owner can drive any ex-military MV (or other motor vehicle come to that) on the road. In my view any rational person would say 'no'. There has to be limits. At the end of the day, vehicles can be very dangerous things and need to be regulated. The limits are set by the C&U Regulations. If the vehicle complies, there shouldn't be a problem. If it doesn't, then it shouldn't go on the road. End of. Most MVs will be ok. But there will be some that fall outside. If there are anomolies at the edges, get them sorted. But I can't help but feel that some of the posts in this string and others start from the position of sour grapes - "I've bought this toy, so I should be allowed to play with it as I please." I don't think that washes. Sorry. Moreover, if the MV clubs are aware of individuals using non-compliant vehicles on the road the best way they can demonstrate they should be taken seriously is by reporting those instances or ejecting members if they persist. Perhaps they should do more in the way of publishing guides to members as to what is covered and what isn't. It does the broader hobby no favours when people "try it on". Ignorance, or the fact that a vehicle may be registered, is no excuse either. Remember driving a non-compliant vehicle on the road probably invalidates your insurance (was the inference from earlier posts that the standard braking system on 432s make them non-compliant; and hasn't it been mentioned elsewhere that stollies are over-width?); and nobody wants to be financially liable to compensation payments after injuring someone.

It's probably apocryphal, but I've heard it said that the big red brick civic centre opposite the base mentioned earlier once doubled as the Kremlin in a film! For those who can't access the link I posted earlier, it concludes: The Grade I listed wartime operations room bunker at RAF Uxbridge will be preserved as a museum, while the Grade II listed Hillingdon House will be converted into luxury apartments or a hotel. The station cinema is Grade II listed. The Battle of Britain War Memorial will become a protected monument.

Does this help put minds to rest: http://forcesuxbridge.2day.ws/forcesuxbridge/?localBoard=890&globalBoard=0

Some neat photos there Mike. Here's a German postcard showing another. (The car in the foreground is an Opel.)

Who can positively identify this car?

Another advert - Lord Mayor's procession, November 9th, 1915

A stunning photograph there Richard - I don't remember you showing me that before! Pictures of trailed workshops are quite rare, especially showing any real detail. Here are a couple of views of one from my collection (not for reproduction). I can't make out the data plate - all suggestions welcome. Ditto for the manufacturer. Taskers were a well known trailer manufacturer from the time but I don't have any reference material to positively identify one way or the other.

Yes, in the Crossley Register newsletter. They're being offered to CR members to begin with. The six-wheeler is a civvy version : http://www.svvs.org/gallery-bricomms6.shtml

There are quite a few Kegresse half-tracks around, although many are missing tracks. There are (or were) 3 Crossleys - Tony Oliver's; one that was at Beverley before it closed (on loan from the Army Museum collection?); and one that appeared in The Automobile July 1989. This last one went to France where it's half-track unit was removed for use in the restoration of another vehicle. The rest returned to the UK and helpped in Roger Bone's six-wheeler restoration. The six-wheeler and the remnants of the half-track are currenly for sale. Tony Oliver also had another Kegresse - a Citroen I seem to remember. As well as a lot of the Sahara Citroens, plenty of Unics also survive including armoured variants. There's also a Alfa Romeo Kegresse in captivity, which is rather nice! http://www.classicdriver.de/uk/find/4100_results.asp?sorderby=tblManufacturers.sName+ASC%2C+tblModels.sModel+ASC%2C+bOfficial+DESC%2C+tblCars.sType+ASC&action=simple_search&coopid=0&lmanufacturer=10002&lcurrency=2&next=4100_results.asp&whatbutton.x=0&dealerid=0&bsubmit=true&lmodelflag=13782&bclicked=false&bshowstock=Wahr&page=0&lCarID=1760658 And then there's Lenin's Rolls Royce with it's early track system...

Good call on Vulcan. After studying various photos, I concur. I think there will be plenty of Brits keen to see the w/shop stay here though.

Wow! I'm stunned to see another workshop body - but I guess their usefulness means the probability of survival must always have been quite high. As far as I'm aware there are now three survivors - the one at the start of this string, the one at Duxford ( ) and this 'new' one - which needs to be mounted on a Leyland RAF type pronto! At first sight the wheels on this mystery chassis look Dennis like...

This vehicle is mentioned in Karl Martin's book Irish Army Vehicles - Transport & Armour since 1922: Leyland subsidy A type S5X4... In late 1941, the Army fitted modern electric lighting and replaced the original solid tyres with 9.00 x 20 pneumatic ones. This lorry was attached to Base Workshops, Clancy Barracks until 1962. It was then bought and preserved by the vehicle collector Ralph Ferrie, who was at one time a distributor for Leyland and Albion trucks in the British Midlands. It's now moved to a new home.

Good ID on the Argyll, Richard. Some more web images here: http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/3423123/Hulton-Archive?language=en-GB&location=GBR http://www.chrishodgephotos.co.uk/pixv/argyll%20lorry.jpg

One on ebay at the moment @ £190 starting price: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Cole-Pattern-Mk-2-Sun-Compass-WW2-military-vehicle-/170544501272?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item27b53e9218

Pagefield was a topic only a few days ago: http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?20549-Identification-of-engine

I use Firefox - all hunkey dorey. Sounds like it's AOL...

A picture from my collection (not for reproduction). Almost certainly taken in the 1920s