Seriously thinkimg of a saw on three as they are past it. Trouble is there are two Firestone British NATO type that are usable, don't want to spoil them. I've got 5 new Michilin similar to the old Avon Traction Milage type. I know they are not NDC, but, as the vehicle is marked up for Pre D-Day in UK it would have run on 'Economy' tyres anyway. A mate has one of the Ex German ones, but dosen't quite fit a Dodge rim, does work though. Retriver, thanks for offer, but a bit far, though given me an idea, I can try the local agricultural place.