mcspool

Edit: posting moved to Pre WW2 vehicles forum

The rotary wing section is crammed with weird and wonderful craft. Personally, I found the WW2 section a bit disappointing. It is a little less more than some aircraft tucked away in a big tent. Currently on display are FW190, Spitfire, Mustang, Thunderbolt, Casa 111 (which was flown into Le Bourget in 1975 after 30 years in service with the Spanish Air Force) and Dewoitine D.520.

I visited this museum at Le Bourget, Paris, last weekend, and think it is very worthwile. Entrance to the basic collection is free, if you want to enter the Concorde, Dakota and Boeing 747 you will have to pay extra. Especially the early years of flight is represented by very interesting displays and artefacts. Also the space (France is the third largest aerospace country!) and the prototype section is well worth the visit.

French Citroen Traction Avant, commandeered by the Germans, then liberated by the Americans who slapped on some markings to prevent being shot at.

That's one mighty radial, the pinnacle of piston engine aircraft engine technology. Weren't these referred to as "corn cobs"? Would love to hear it run!

Not a lot is documented about wartime bicycles, but as I understand it "war time finish" means it's an austere version, saving valuable materials like chrome and rubber for the war effort, replacing them with other materials for non-critical applications.

Isn't this one of those Daks they sank off for divers to dive on?

P38 was crushed by ice also, what's flying now is probably the data plate plus 90% new parts. Heck of a story, though!

Agree, I know guys who love restoring a vehicle and then sell it as they don't like driving, and those who do it the other way around. And then of course there is also the famous quote from MLU: "Why is it that when you have the $$, you don't have the time, and when you have the time you don't have the $$?"

An excellent effort and great news! Seeing http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22848638 the salt water definitely has taken its toll, I hope they can preserve most of what's there and display it a la Halifax at the RAF Museum, rather than totally reconstruct it.

I was fascinated to see this well-preserved relic coming up for sale. While 25kEUR is a lot of money of course, I wonder how much man hours and materials one spends on the basket cases we see being restored here on HMVF. I'd guess the conclusion is that 25kEUR would not be a bad price for this De Dion truck. As for your grand sum paid back in 1979, I always wonder about what seem low prices quoted by the collectors who have been into this hobby for a long time. Looking around I found this site http://www.measuringworth.com/ukcompare/ which calculates that in 2011, the relative value of £289 from 1979 ranged from £1,110 (for a commodity) to £2,187. Would the latter be a more realistic figure for today's price for your Jeffery-Quad? I'd say with the increasing rarity of these old relics, the price would be higher today.

That's an 1 April joke. But in South Africa a pigeon could carry 4GB over 60 miles faster than the internet - really! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8248056.stm

Make sure to send off your message with the pigeon, too!

A bloke in my secondary school dug up an ammo box with mortar grenades, put them on the load carrier of his bicycle and rode along bumpy back roads to the police station and smacked the box in their counter. No need to say the police station was evacuated in a hurry! The EOD came in, took the box away and detonated it with its contents in the nearest field. He got off with a warning to stop doing this sort if stuff but he continued to dig for munitions....

You are right of course! As you know my command of the English language is limited.... I was careful not to type "bull dozer" as that in my opinion certainly has a dozer blade. This would be classified as a crawler tractor, right?

There's a great picture of a dozer marked "R.N. Recovery Unit" in this thread. Not sure which type, but it was used to recover swamped vehicles during amphibious operations.

Indeed the Swiss bought militarized CJ jeeps from Willys, right from shortly after WW2, as did the Dutch Army, the Belgians, and a whole host of other nations. Here are some details where the militarized CJ-5 differed from the M38A1: Battery box in the cowl, Jeep stampings on cowl sides: Rear tailgate: View on the dash: hand brake under the dash to the left of the steering wheel; note small fuel filler: Difficult to see, but front springs have only five leaves: Rear springs have twelve leaves: Chassis serial and engine numbers, year of manufacture:

What do you mean by "bought up"? I do know Kaiser-Frazer took over Willys-Overland in 1953, and that Kaiser sold licences to many car makers. But I did not know they sold a licence to Ford in Brazil.

Ha ha Pete old mate, trying to catch me red handed with a j-thingy as well, eh?!? No, too much work in relation to its relevance for me. Interesting to find out a HMV I never heard of before, it isn't even listed in Bart Vanderveen's books, mind you :shocked: Also intrigued by how a vehicle built in South America for South America ended up in Belgium.

Ah, in that case the full points go to c101 comando....

Yes, ten points to Mr Farrant too! Or would that be Mr. Google? I never heard or seen this variant before, until I ran across one for sale in Belgium. Did you know this was the original Camel Trophy Vehicle?!? :wow:

Yes, can you list the model number?

Nope, the NEKAF was a license built M38A1 with some local parts like batteries and tyres. I had never heard / seen it before either, but here's a clue: "Camel Trophy". And oh, being license-built is a clue too.

Nope, sorry....

Who can ID this jeep?!?