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Alright then, to get back to your original question: the chassis had a black undercoat plus OD top coat when it left the factory.

Hi Matt, Apparently some of the truck manufacturers during WW2 used common practice to paint their chassis black, after final assemble an overcoat of Olive Drab was applied to the whole vehicle. It seems Jack's GMC has had bituminous undercoating applied by the Norwegian Army (over the Olive Drab top coat). My 20-cwt trailer, also ex-Norwegian Army, has the same type of undercoating. Jack, have you tried removing some of the paint layers on your chassis. You should find black undercoating, olive drab and then black base paint? Hanno

That's not a factory applied coating

Hi Matt, was that black bitumen-based undercoat? Or black paint? Cheers, Hanno

Excellent info, thanks! Do they look like these? Regards, Hanno

John Belfield is getting older (he's in his 70's, IIRC), I guess that has something to do with it. Hanno

FYI: http://www.geocities.com/cmpvehicles/paint.html

"Brake Horsepower (bhp) - The measure of horsepower at maximum engine output, minus power lost from heat, friction, expansion of the engine, etc." In other words: the amount of hp measured at the brakes. H.

I don't think this is a WW2 trailer. I'll see if I can dig up any info. Hanno

Tyler, great item - now you really need a CMP truck to tow it. :wink: Ask ackack on this forum, he's restored a Quad Polsten as well. Cheers, Hanno

Make sure though your friend will purchase a Willys, that is, if he/she wants a WW2 Jeep Cheers, Hanno[/b]

Hmm, I can't see clearly stated this is a repro. Not very nice of the seller.... Hanno

Yes, the vehicles which were there when the museum opened intially were all battle casualties found in or around Overloon. Over the years other vehicles were added to the collection, latest addition is the complete Marshall Museum, formerly located at Zwijndrecht. It has been many years ago since I last saw the Humber LRC, but as far as I can recall it was indeed damaged by mines. Note the rear suspension is complete gone. Mind you, many restorers would think nothing of restoring this "wreck". Hanno P.S. for info on the battle for Overloon, see http://www.godutch.com/windmill/newsItem.asp?id=291

You mean this one? It's a Humber LRC. Source: http://www.jagdtiger.de/

Looks great, well done! Cheers, Hanno

If you have a CCKW-352 you could mark the whole lot up as a British unit ... see http://www.hmvf.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6755#6755 Hanno

But the one you bought is the type as used by the Commonwealth, isn't it? Hanno

See Trailer, 1 Ton, 2 Wh., G.S.

Andy, CCKW-352's were indeed used by the British during WW2. Below follow the references I found on GMC CCKW-352 2½-ton 6x6 truck in Commonwealth service: "The GMC CCKW-352 2½-ton 6x6 truck was also produced for allied forces, incl. at least 400 for the United Kingdom" [bart Vanderveen, Historic Military Vehicles Directory, p.353]. I do not know when these trucks were exactly ordered, but somehow I think this was early during the war when Britain was frantically trying to make good the Dunkirk losses? If my assumption is correct, these British CCKW-352s were fitted with closed cabs (transition from the closed to open cab took place from August, 1942 until late in April (possibly early May) 1943). As the CCKW-352's intended main role was artillery towing, "the British pressed a number into service as Bofors 40-mm light AA gun tractors. With no special stowage arrangements the ammunition was simply stowed at the forward end of the body with a spare barrel down the middle, the crew using the standard hinged slatted seats" [John Church, Military Vehicles of World War 2, p.93]. There is also mention of two batteries of the 93rd Anti-Tank Regiment in Italy, "receiving U.S. 2½-ton trucks in place of the British tractors used for towing their guns" in August 1943. (note: in June '43 the 93rd converted to a new establishment of four batteries, one self-propelled and three towed, of which one had 17-pounders with Mark II carriages and the other two 6-pounders) [C.H. Bogart, 'The 93rd Anti-Tank Regiment'. AFV News, Vol.32, No.1, January-April 1997, p.8]. So it seems the CCKW-352 in British service was definitely used as a tractor for the the Bofors 40-mm AA gun, whilst 17- and/or 6-pdr AT guns seem to have been towed as well. As far as I can ascertain, no 25-pdr field guns were towed by Commonwealth CCKW-352's during WW2. Ref. http://www.mapleleafup.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1785 Hope this helps, Hanno