oddball Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Some sort of ground anchor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 Some sort of ground anchor? Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienFTM Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Part of a RADIAC mast?? Strangely, just yesterday as I gave our Industrial Trainee a lift home, I mentioned items that were planned but we never saw. Navaid: a gyroscopic positioning system designed to fit in a small space in the Scorpion engine compartment. Radiac mast: a small mast to be mounted on the top centre fitting of a Scorpion turret. Are you telling me that Radiac masts ever actually existed then?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienFTM Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 The second pic made me think of the suspension arm tensioning strut (equivalent to a jack on a tracked vehicle) but the CVR(T) model looked nothing like that and on reflection it's far too complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 The second pic made me think of the suspension arm tensioning strut (equivalent to a jack on a tracked vehicle) but the CVR(T) model looked nothing like that and on reflection it's far too complicated.Yes you are right it isn't. If it helps there was only one per vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Neil yes very well spotted & researched. But that was only its storage position it could not be used where it is. OK - we're getting somewhere at last!! Only one per vehicle implies it's central between the two missiles. The picture seems to imply the arm the devices rear pivots are attached to swings over and forwards and then the device rotates forward from there.... Is it 1) Some kind of brace used between the vehicle and the carrier in the lowered travelling position or 2) Some kind of loading aid??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 (edited) Only one per vehicle implies it's central between the two missiles. Nope Is it 1) Some kind of brace used between the vehicle and the carrier in the lowered travelling position or 2) Some kind of loading aid??? Nope & nope Edited November 15, 2009 by Marmite!! quoye tags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Strangely, just yesterday as I gave our Industrial Trainee a lift home, I mentioned items that were planned but we never saw. Navaid: a gyroscopic positioning system designed to fit in a small space in the Scorpion engine compartment. Radiac mast: a small mast to be mounted on the top centre fitting of a Scorpion turret. Are you telling me that Radiac masts ever actually existed then?!? Yep, I've got one for the Fox... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Nope Is it 1) Some kind of brace used between the vehicle and the carrier in the lowered travelling position or 2) Some kind of loading aid??? Nope & nope Oh rats - wish I'd seen one of these in operation but I think they were before my time. Was I right about the way the linkage seemed to work? If so is it something to do with missile or the launchers system (struggling for hints here....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 "is it something to do with missile or the launchers system?" Yes rather than automotive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul connor Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 (edited) I want to know when your doing the 'guess what this is and its yours' Edited November 15, 2009 by Marmite!! Photo link repaired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 I want to know when your doing the 'guess what this is and its yours' I think success has gone to your head Paul. But I can reassure you that the next item planned will be on a guess & win it basis. May in fact be in time for your visit :wink: Aren't you even going to guess at the current object? You will be allowed to have a full demonstration on your visit & even sniff it if you want to & take close up pictures to show your grandchildren, how many is it you have now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Starting to run out of ideas now - something to do with the wire guidance system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 something to do with the wire guidance system Hmm well in a sense yes it is to do with it, but it is not part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Ok...................... When the missile is fired the guidance wire is redeployed - I'm guessing the crew don't wind it back in - so - a means of reloading the guidance wire??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 When the missile is fired the guidance wire is redeployed - I'm guessing the crew don't wind it back in - so - a means of reloading the guidance wire??? Neil I would like to say yes for your determination & effort but no it isn't I'm arfraid. In trials & practices the wire was recovered as it was extremely strong & dangerous for livestock that frequented the fields around Lulworth. The technique was to use a hub fitted to a Land Rover & the wheel spun at high speed. Although gloves were worn there was no eye protection & it looked extremely dangerous to limb & eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Oh damn - really running out of ideas now. It's not part of the trigger, firing, loading or aiming procedures. It is part of the missile/missile carrier. Missile is solid fueled so can't be fuelling, can't see it being a fuzing aid...... Can't see whats left now - but would love to see one of these in real life!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodge Deep Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 A drawbar :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 3, 2006 Author Share Posted November 3, 2006 would love to see one of these in real life!!!!! Well I take each year to the Great Dorset Steam Fair complete with the mystery object. After 12 years of showing nobody has ever asked what the mystery object does, very few ask about the missiles (which I would consider to fairly eye-catching) all I get is endless silly questions about the smoke dischargers. But I think you mean by real life, live firings. I do have footage of those but never witnessed the real thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 3, 2006 Author Share Posted November 3, 2006 A drawbar :? Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Well I take each year to the Great Dorset Steam Fair complete with the mystery object. After 12 years of showing nobody has ever asked what the mystery object does, very few ask about the missiles (which I would consider to fairly eye-catching) all I get is endless silly questions about the smoke dischargers. But I think you mean by real life, live firings. I do have footage of those but never witnessed the real thing. Actually - I'd like to see the vehicle itself. Maybe one day!! :-) :-) Although seeing the firing footage would be good too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienFTM Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Neil I would like to say yes for your determination & effort but no it isn't I'm arfraid. In trials & practices the wire was recovered as it was extremely strong & dangerous for livestock that frequented the fields around Lulworth. The technique was to use a hub fitted to a Land Rover & the wheel spun at high speed. Although gloves were worn there was no eye protection & it looked extremely dangerous to limb & eye. Flashback. In 1977 I was Squadron Leader's Rover driver and invited to stay up at Otterburn while 15/19H GW Troop converted live Swingfires into smoking holes from their Mark 5 Ferrets. Note I was actually a CVR(T) crewman by trade and although I had entered the Army already in possession of a full class A driving licence, I hadn't been trained on the Land Rovers or the Ferret I'd driven on ops in NI. I had the licence: that was enough. Toward the end of the day I was invited to get my kit off. Turns out they meant a wheel off the Rover (77FM51 since you ask) so that I could wind in all the 4000m lengths of cable GW Troop had plastered all over OTA using a hub attached to a wheel station. After a couple of minutes of winding in, I was asked if I was sitting with my foot on the brake. "Course I bliddy am: the thing will roll off down this hill if I don't." "Well your wheel station is smoking quite nicely now. Trust me: you don't need to brake." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 4, 2006 Author Share Posted November 4, 2006 (edited) Couple of clues. These are pics of parts of the missile, not the Hornet. Edited November 15, 2009 by Marmite!! Photo link repaired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Clive, It is a transit locking device, and has to be removed (+ fin fitted) before firing (???) Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 4, 2006 Author Share Posted November 4, 2006 It is a transit locking device, and has to be removed (+ fin fitted) before firing (???) Nope. Look at the MO No.7 & seem if it has any similar features to the missile & consider why this might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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