AndyFowler Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 I Think its the lack of engine? :-D Want me to ask where the engine went? Yes please ! The Kingtiger engine was used in the Tiger 1 wasn't it ? :??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoelH Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) This is how I understand it, it now has an engine in - the original one. But its beyond repair... I was explained the technical aspects but did not understand, something about frost-bite. Watch this space for more pictures, but its not a runner, the Jagdpanther is closer to being a runner BTW... there are more Panthers, just been told, got to write some emails to various parties, so details to follow. Edited July 6, 2009 by JoelH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Thanks mate ! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoelH Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) I will update the photos, but this will be my plain text list: Tiger I Bovington TM. (Vehicle: 131) - UK Tiger II (King Tiger) Saumur TM. (Vehicle: 233) - FR Jadgtiger: Non Running. Panther: Saumur TM (Vehicle: 211) - FR Munster TM - Modern MTU Engine - DE J. Littlefield (Vehicle: 501) - US Flick Collection - DE Wehrtechnische Studiensammlung Koblenz (Vehicle: 801) - DE Kubinka TM (Vehicle: II011) - RU Jagdpanther: SDKFZ association (Vehicle 411) - UK Munster Panzer Museum - DE Wehrtechnische Studiensammlung Koblenz - DE Panzer 38(T): Army Technical Museum - CZ Jagdpanzer 38(T) Private Collection - UK Kevin Wheatcroft - UK ASPHM Association - FR KubinkaTM - RU Zeughaus Museum- CH Pansarmuseet, Axvall - SE Private collection - UK Jagdpanzer 38(T) G13 Dave Carson - UK Jean Weiler - LU Saumur TM - FR Thun TM x 5 - CH Schweizerisches Militärmuseum x 2 - DE Army Technical Museum Lesany - CZ Virgina Museum of Military vehicles -US 2nd Panzer Division Association - US Karl Smith Collection - US 12th SS-Panzerdivision Reenactment unit - US Alex Hagenbuch Hilfikon - CH PZI: Saumur (Not confirmed?) - FR PZII: Saumur (Vehicle 304) - FR Saumur TM (Luchs) - FR PZIII: Bovington TM - UK Saumur TM - FR Royal Arms museum - DK STUG: SDKFZ association - UK Finish Armoured Brigade - FI Artillery Museum - FI Finish Army Depot - FI Private Collection - US PZIV: Kubinka - RU Wehrtechnische Studiensammlung Koblenz - DE Czech Army Museum - CZ JagdPZIV: Hummel Munster TM - DE Edited: Hope this is a better format, have been sending around emails like crazy in order to confirm an extra 3! running Panther tanks. So here we are, a run down on what different WW2 German armour we have in the different countries: DE - 9 - Germany FR - 8 - France UK - 8 - United Kingdom CH - 7 - Switzerland US - 6 - United States RU - 3 - Russia FI - 3 - Finland CZ - 3 - Czech LU - 1 - Luxembourg SE - 1 - Sweden DK - 1 - Denmark So Germany - France have the most armour split between them. However the UK is only one behind. Edited July 7, 2009 by JoelH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) I always thought a Jagd 38(T) WAS a Hetzer? The Hetzer was based on the orignal 38(T) chassis, right? I reckon we are lacking on the PzIV front, there must be more running than that, after all they were still current at the end of the war and used up until the late 60's in the middle east. Perhaps people haven't put the same effort in as the rare heavies. NB: Add 1 to the JagdPzIV list Ref: Pathfinder Issue 1, in Poland, if you check out the Polish web site they have photos of test running the engine. I always get a bit lost with these Jagd versions, as there is a StuG style PzIV and the later sloped glacias version, was that the Gudarian(sp?) Duck? Edited July 6, 2009 by ajmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoelH Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Yeah not sure how I managed to do that But I have changed it around, Hetzer was a JAGD 38(T). I am getting more and more feedback from PM's etc on the list. Thus more and more vehicles are been added. I think their is a Panzer 4, but I need some sort of evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centi521 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Panzerjaeger_G13_1.JPG this one is from the "museum im Zeughaus" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels v Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 There is a running Pz IIIN in Denmark, its own by the Royal Arms museum, but as been in storage for a lot of years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted July 7, 2009 Author Share Posted July 7, 2009 Niels, that is the best 'weathered' vehicle I have ever seen, the Bov Tiger I was good before the restoration but that PzIII is a cracker, looks like it was driven into a wearhouse in 45 and wheeled out for the photo 40-50 years later! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centi521 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Thun-5G13Kolonne2.JPG 4 g13 at tank days thun 2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoelH Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 (edited) There is a running Pz IIIN in Denmark, its own by the Royal Arms museum, but as been in storage for a lot of years now. I am looking into this Panzer IIIN, thanks for the contributions. As I assume you speak Danish, maybe you could drop the museum a line just to confirm that its still in running order. Updated what CENTI game me. Who owns the JagdPzIV in Pathfinder then? Edited July 7, 2009 by JoelH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels v Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 (edited) Niels, that is the best 'weathered' vehicle I have ever seen, the Bov Tiger I was good before the restoration but that PzIII is a cracker, looks like it was driven into a wearhouse in 45 and wheeled out for the photo 40-50 years later! Well that is because it was driven into a wearhouse in 45, and the 40 years after wheeled out, sadly they have repainted it now, and hidden it.:cry: Sorry they are not willing to give any infomation about it, But one of my friends worked on it for a short while when they got it driving agian. The arms museum is not interessed in vehicles and preserving them. they also had a running sd.kfz 251 that they left outside, wich resulted in crack engine block Edited July 7, 2009 by Niels v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoelH Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 (edited) Ok, so I will add it. - Added country names also. Question: G13 - Patton Museum - Running? Possible Running PZ4? Here? Thanks, FB Edited July 7, 2009 by JoelH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Batchelor Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 There was a WW2 Tiger tank (don't know model other than it was huge with wide tracks from memory) in the collection at RMSC Shrivenham along with some other tanks, was a few years ago when I studied there on my Engineering degree. The Tiger was definately a non runner but the guy who showed us round reckoned it was rather a rare beast. Don't know if it is still located there or was moved elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted July 7, 2009 Author Share Posted July 7, 2009 (edited) I think that was the KingTiger (Henschel) that now lives a Bovington. Edited July 7, 2009 by ajmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoelH Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I may have found a running Panzer IV Something went wrong... Not sure of its location, or even who owns it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I would guess Czech Republic and owned by the Army Museum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoranWC51 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I'd take a guess - Poland, Hungary. Hideous looking paint job on the Mark IV, though. Is it correct? As always, Goran N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoelH Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Adrian I am very sure that you are correct. Restoration page here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centi521 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 what is with this one? or is that a replica ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels v Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Hi Centi Thats a home made tiger replica, I think that it was made in poland :coffee: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centi521 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Hi Centi Thats a home made tiger replica, I think that it was made in poland :coffee: but a very good replica :shocked: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoelH Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Personally I cannot believe that there is only 1 running Panzer 1, We have one at Bovington, but its not running. Any more suggestions for the list would be great. FB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted July 7, 2009 Author Share Posted July 7, 2009 That Tiger 1 is a replica, EXACT 1:1 replica bar the drive train, I believe it has a Merc V8 powering a Hydraulic pump, the track drive is via hydraulic motors. It won't sound like a Tiger :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoelH Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Thread split. List moved to here. FB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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