Jack Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 This M4A3 Sherman tank was photographed while driving on the Autobahn (now A9) north of Bayreuth, toward Berlin, on 19 April 1945. This was the interchange for the secondary road leading to Marktschorgast and Gefrees (now Exit 37 for Gefrees). (National Archives, RG 111-SC) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 The 11th Armored Division eventually moved southeast from Bayreuth, ending the war near Linz in Austria. This M4A3E8 Sherman tank is moving through the town of Gallneukirchen, northeast of Linz, on 4 May 1945. The large building in the period photo is now gone, but the building seen behind the tank appears in the left-center of the modern photo (which was taken on 5 May 2005). (National Archives, RG 111-SC) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 The last picture on the left hand side looks like a Firefly???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joris Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Where did you dig these up? They are fantastic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick W Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Nice pics jack. you sure we dont need a "Then and Now" Section? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienFTM Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 The last picture on the left hand side looks like a Firefly???? No it is an M4A3E8. Note the HVSS suspension with open roadwheels, the flat glacis plate unbroken by hatches and the larger turret for the US 76mm gun, their answer to the Firefly's 17 pdr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 No it is an M4A3E8. Note the HVSS suspension with open roadwheels, the flat glacis plate unbroken by hatches and the larger turret for the US 76mm gun, their answer to the Firefly's 17 pdr. Though nowhere near as good! It's not uncommon for people to call any Sherman with a muzzle brake a Firefly but Alien is spot-on. It's also on T-66 single pin track but knowing that may be seen as a bit anal..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodge Deep Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 ... not anal... dedicated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 . It's also on T-66 single pin track but knowing that may be seen as a bit anal..... ...I forgot to say that in my original post.:coffee: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEnfield Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 No it is an M4A3E8. Note the HVSS suspension with open roadwheels, the flat glacis plate unbroken by hatches and the larger turret for the US 76mm gun, their answer to the Firefly's 17 pdr. I'm thinking as pictured is American 11th Armoured Div, it would'nt be a Firefly, which the British 11th Armoured Div would have been using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 I'm thinking as pictured is American 11th Armoured Div, it would'nt be a Firefly, which the British 11th Armoured Div would have been using. I did think myself :sweat: but then thought war is war and you have to make do sometimes :??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEnfield Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I did think myself :sweat: but then thought war is war and you have to make do sometimes :??? true, enough, Jack............I'd imagine ordinance corps being 'bemused' by requests for 76mm ammo, instead of 17pdr....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Commonwealth forces did use M4A1(76) in Italy so Ordnance would be supplying 6 pdr, 75mm, 76mm and 17 pdr tank ammo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 Nice pics jack. you sure we dont need a "Then and Now" Section? Think you have a great point here Rick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joris Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Here or on the front page? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted August 21, 2008 Author Share Posted August 21, 2008 Forum I reckon JN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEnfield Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Commonwealth forces did use M4A1(76) in Italy so Ordnance would be supplying 6 pdr, 75mm, 76mm and 17 pdr tank ammo! Learn't something, there; :tup:: Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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