Jack Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Decided to make this a sticky as it is such a huge subject and would be a great resource for members wanting to understand and mark sense of all of those markings and symbols. Some questions regarding markings/stencils; 1. Did all vehicles have standard markings. 2. I have seen some with markings on the petrol tank, bonnet and loads more without, is this a personal preference? 3. Again, I have seen on the tail gate 'left hand drive, no hand signals' but not on many vehicles. 4. What do the numbers mean that run on both sides of the bonnet. 5. What are the numbers on the bumper? 6. I have also seen people 'name' their vehicles, was this practiced during the WW2..... 7. How were British vehicles marked. 8 .Do we still mark our modern vehicles in the same manner. 9. What do the yellow disk mean on the front of vehicles..... Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie The Jeep Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 I know a little. 4 - Bonnet/hood numbers are usually the vehicle registration number. The first one or two digits refer to the type of vehicle ( ie. 2 = light duty 1/2 to 1 ton, 40 = full and half track vehicles except tanks ) An 'S' after the number indicated the vehicle electrics were suppressed to allow the use of radios. Source - Allied Liberation Vehicles, by Francois Bertin 5 - Bumber markings are generally the Group/Unit that the vehicle belongs to. My jeep, belongs to 8th Air Force, 100th Bomb Group, 351st Bomb Squadron, vehicle 17 6 - Some vehicles and aircraft were named during the war. It depended upon the unit commander, and nature of the art/name. Later in the war, there was more censorship of naming following a B-17 Fortress named "Murder Inc", which force landed and the crew captured. Some of the crew had this name painted on their jackets and the Germans made propaganda out of it claiming it to be official US Air Force policy to murder. Hope this helps a bit. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corne Lauwerijssen Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Well vehicles do have standard markings. But they where not done like it should be by the GIs. On the hood or bonnet is has the regristrationnumbers (not serial) and USA, all late trucks or Jeeps probaply around 1943 where radiosurpressed and therefore the got a S on the hood. For invasions jeeps and trucks got measurment sizes and weight painted at some places, where space was available. In the cab they painted the tirepressure amount sometimes or maximum speed. On the hood they painted for preparation of the winter, antifreeze, winterezed or prestone whene the vehicles was prepared for the winterseason. And you have the nicknames, sometimes called after the company or batalion, whatever it could be anything. Corné Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Hey Jack I thought I answered most of these questions on the CCKW site, A lot if not all vehicles had their unit markings deleted for the D-Day landings as a security measure and because it was believed that Rommel was going to use captured vehicles to infiltrate behind Allied lines, this actually happened later at the start of what became known as the Battle of the Bulge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted August 11, 2005 Author Share Posted August 11, 2005 Hey Jack I thought I answered most of these questions on the CCKW site,A lot if not all vehicles had their unit markings deleted for the D-Day landings as a security measure and because it was believed that Rommel was going to use captured vehicles to infiltrate behind Allied lines, this actually happened later at the start of what became known as the Battle of the Bulge. Hi Degsy. Yes you did :wink: ................just thought that it is a subject that a lot of people would be interested in. Plus the fact that I wanted to give you something to do :shock: Best wishes. Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Hi Jack As if I haven't got enough to do. But seriously I agree it is a huge subject and very important and interesting. Regards Degs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted August 16, 2005 Author Share Posted August 16, 2005 Stars and Bumper numbers of vehicles This page contains information from TM9-850 which deals with lettering and identification of WW2 vehicles. I have included information that would be important to the Chevy, CCKW, and DUKW and their trailers. Click on pages to open in new browser window and then click on page again to enlarge it is with many thanks to Bill over on http://www.cckw.org for his permission to reproduce this information here for the benifit of all of us, thanks Bill :wink: 1.2.3. 4.5.6. 7.8. 9.10. 11.12. 13.14. 15.16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ja020 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Hi, try these sites US - http://www.geocities.com/earlymb/markings.html Canadian and British - http://www.canadianregister.co.uk/wdnumbers.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddball Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Came across this hood number generator the other day if anyone is interested. http://www.smedith.co.uk/CMA/hoodNumEst.htm All the best, Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted September 20, 2005 Author Share Posted September 20, 2005 Right. Where do I get paint from........for my GMC? 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddball Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Right. Where do I get paint from........for my GMC? 8) Told you before, take a sample of the colour you like to your local automotive paint supplier & they will match it for you. C'mon, wake up at the back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted September 20, 2005 Author Share Posted September 20, 2005 Right. Where do I get paint from........for my GMC? 8) Told you before, take a sample of the colour you like to your local automotive paint supplier & they will match it for you. C'mon, wake up at the back Thanks Tim. ......the problem is, I have 7 different colours on there :oops: :cry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddball Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 ......the problem is, I have 7 different colours on there :oops: :cry: So pick which ever one takes your fancy You don't necessarily have to take the colour from the vehicle, I matched the paint for the jeep from a fire extinguisher I liked the look of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted September 20, 2005 Author Share Posted September 20, 2005 ....just want to buy a tin and get it painted :cry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddball Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 ....just want to buy a tin and get it painted :cry: Dallas had a shed load of paint last time I looked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted September 21, 2005 Author Share Posted September 21, 2005 So if I took a piece of my GMC down to B&Q...they could macth the paint......and the paint would be good enough to use on an MV? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddball Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 So if I took a piece of my GMC down to B&Q...they could macth the paint......and the paint would be good enough to use on an MV? Personally I don't think their scanners are good enough, the last time I tried to get some paint matched in Homebase they got a completely different colour let alone shade. If you want to try them, make sure you get oil based paint. You would be better off going to a proper paint factor though they have better equipment. I don't mind if you want to send me a sample getting it matched by the firm I use & bringing it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted September 21, 2005 Author Share Posted September 21, 2005 Tim. The piant on the GMC is pointing towards the deep green (gloss?) colour.......do Dallas supply this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddball Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Tim. The piant on the GMC is pointing towards the deep green (gloss?) colour.......do Dallas supply this? Not sure, but from their website it doesn't look like it. You would have to ring them to check. http://www.dallasautoparts.com/paint.htm As I say i'm quite happy to get it matched for you, they would do it in gloss or matt whatever you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted September 21, 2005 Author Share Posted September 21, 2005 When I get home I will take some pictures of the colour that is on the GMC and post them up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddball Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 When I get home I will take some pictures of the colour that is on the GMC and post them up! Chances are it won't reproduce correctly, if you've got a scanner, scan it into photoshop or some other paint programe & it should give you the RGB values. 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted September 21, 2005 Author Share Posted September 21, 2005 Chances are it won't reproduce correctly, if you've got a scanner, scan it into photoshop or some other paint programe & it should give you the RGB values. 8) Now you are just showing off :shock: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted September 21, 2005 Author Share Posted September 21, 2005 Ok, I don't want to bore you for to much longer but RR Services are sending me some colours samples 8) The paint on my GMC is a glossy mat or is it a dull gloss............ :twisted: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Hi Jack Try Martin at Allied Forces, he usually has good paint in stock, uses it on his own vehicles, need I say more. Cheers Degsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 Cheers Degsy, didn't think of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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