50 cal ( † RIP † ) Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 does anybody know the results of the tank sale in finland please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Mark, prices as follows. Charioteer Mk VII Model B # Ps.251-2 = 8.000 € Charioteer Mk VII Model B # Ps.251-3 = 12.500 € Charioteer Mk VII Model B # Ps.251-4 = 15.000 € Charioteer Mk VII Model B # Ps.251-11 = 9.000 € Charioteer Mk VII Model B # Ps.251-13 = 16.000 € Charioteer Mk VII Model B # Ps.251-15 = 14.000 € Charioteer Mk VII Model B # Ps.251-16 = 8.000 € Charioteer Mk VII Model B # Ps.251-21 = 10.000 € Charioteer Mk VII Model B # Ps.251-22 = 10.500 € Charioteer Mk VII Model B # Ps.251-23 = 9.500 € Charioteer Mk VII Model B # Ps.251-24 = 9.500 € Charioteer Mk VII Model B # Ps.251-30 = 13.000 € Charioteer Mk VII Model B # Ps.251-32 = 14.500 € Charioteer Mk VII Model B # Ps.251-33 = 13.000 € A34 Comet Mk I Model B # Ps.252-6 = 25.000 € A34 Comet Mk I Model B # Ps.252-10 = 21.000 € A34 Comet Mk I Model B # Ps.252-33 = 18.000 € A34 Comet Mk I Model B # Ps.252-36 = 17.500 € Sturmgeschütz 40 Ausf. G # Ps.531-27 = 125.000 € Sturmgeschütz III Ausf. G # Ps.531-55 = 115.000 € Sturmgeschütz III Ausf. G # Ps.531-58 = 185.000 € I believe all but nine of the vehicles were sold to Finns. Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 As an aside, Charioteer -15 was the pick of the bunch to my mind. It was a welded hull, originally a Cromwell Vw and a rare vehicle. One of the few with a full engine bay too! Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer_peter Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 I didn´t think that the Charioteer´s would be so cheap ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford 369 Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 I believe the sturms are on thier way to the wheatcroft collection for restoration Nigel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 thanks for the post on the finnish charioteer prices adrian, it's good to know what ian paid for them originally, i'm not a 100% sure but i think i did the deal with ian on no. 251-3, i say not sure as i hadn't expected to be looking at the charitoteer it was the centaur i went down for so my mind was too busy weighing up whether i could afford both but ian sold me on the idea and it felt right so i went for it. i don't know maybe i'm getting soft and want an easy restoration instead of the range wrecks. with regard to the serviceability of the engine and running gear i was told by ian that the engine turns over on the battery so you never know maybe i'll get lucky and she'll fire up without major surgery. all the best eddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcspool Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 So. . . here is a Comet, Charioteer and StuG! Now, which one is which? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agripper Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 I would have either the Comet or charioteer both look nice, would not touch the stug never got the bug . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoony Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 stugs http://www.andreaslarka.net/ps531027/ps531027.html http://www.andreaslarka.net/ps531055/ps531055.html http://www.andreaslarka.net/ps531058/ps531058.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo578 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 agripper I would have either the Comet or charioteer both look nice, would not touch the stug never got the bug . Yes the British stuff is more viable as a project and are full of character- the StuGs shown look as though the Pansar Museum has already picked over the carcase for any spare necessary to keep there own collection going. If money was no object I would prefer to spend it restoring something like the wreck T28 that is in the Finnish collection. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 my latest aquisition :cool2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antar Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Surely the weather was worse than that in Shrewsbury today ! Weather in Northern Ireland was terrible today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo578 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Very nice:thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 john it was a glorious day in more ways than one, bob and colin came down with me to check it over and everything looked ok. can i warn you now your name was mentioned once or twice :cool2: steve how can i trace the history from the t number is it a simple case of a phone call or is there more to it than that. cheers eddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 how can i trace the history from the t number is it a simple case of a phone call or is there more to it than that. cheers eddy Eddy, the Cromwell plate tells you it was built as a Cromwell VI (95mm) with an F type hull. The T number can be looked up at Bovington on the key cards and this will tell you it's post war number, engine number at the time of disposal, date and disposal disposition. You can also get the Charioteer key card which will tell you it's reg number as a Charioteer and its fate. Any other info will have to be gleaned from photographs or lists of vehicles. The individual record cards do not exist anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 This is the plate from another Charioteer that may give you a little more info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo578 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Adrian didn't you have an overstamped Cromwell plate once? or was it from a Centaur dozer or something? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Steve, the plate in my tank had the word Cromwell ground out but had no overstampings. Eddies plate is unusual in having no makers number or date and I suspect it is a replacement. I've seen Comet plates that had the T number machined out and the ZR number stamped in place but the Cromwells don't seem to have had this happen. Mind you, the representative samples I have seen are quite small in number! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcspool Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Great aquisition Eddy, found some more pics of the Finnish StuG's to whet your appetite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 I also have a note of Cromwell VI T120541 as having makers number B2-117 and T120614 as B2-176 so making T120582 B2-158. They are also dated as June 44 and October 44 respectively. All made by Metro Cammell on contract T11531. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzkpfw-e Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 I believe that 2 of the 3 Stugs pictured, are now in the possession of Kevin Wheatcroft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 thanks for the info adrian, i did think that it was strange that the makers no. and date weren't on stamped on it, sounds like i bought a ringer with regard to the T number do i physically have to go to bovy to look it up or can i phone someone and if so what is their number. the pics below show the drivers compartment and the engine compartment with missing starter motor cheers eddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diver99 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Tank Museum no. 01929 405096 and follow the prompts for the archive and library. Nice vehicles and i wish you well in your restoration. regards dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 cheers dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Good luck with this purchase. Will it be ready for A&E 2012? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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