Terra1936 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Any way you can share your recipe? Where did you get or mix up the rubber? I need 40 + FV432 pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terra1936 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 On 12/1/2020 at 9:20 AM, diesel1 said: I've only done full pads at the moment, I did do a test piece by pouring some polymer into a mould sat on top of a old pad that had been cleaned up. It didn't seem to have much hold after it had set. If recapping pads, the old pad needs to be cleaned up really well, then a special primer needs to be applied to the surface before pouring the polymer. I've got some on order from the USA,, cannot find anything similar in this country but I'm sure there will be somewhere. I need to recap some pads and test them properly before making too many and finding there no good. Making a new pad is a lot better, but a recapped pad is a lot cheaper to make. Im using a PMC-790 industrial liquid rubber compound . Spray a wax based release agent in the mould and leave to dry, mix the part a and part b polymers together making sure they are above 23c, also the mould needs to be warm, once poured the polymer will start to set within 5 mins. I have a hot box for food, bought off eBay for £40, can be kept at a constant 50c for 24 hrs, will hold about 12 mounds. Will post pics of the mounds tomorrow, easy to make, made another 2 in about 30mins the other day, I now have 10. Cvrt pads will be very difficult to do, I've some need doing but will give it a miss! PMC™-790 Product Information | Smooth-On, Inc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terra1936 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 How has the urathane compared to the regular rubber pad? I believe it is much harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terra1936 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 These were the directions. You heated the entire time? Instructions Preparation - Store and use at room temperature (73°F/23°C). Material has a limited shelf life and should be used as soon as possible. Wear safety glasses, long sleeves and rubber gloves to minimize contamination risk. Good ventilation (room size) is necessary. Some Materials Must Be Sealed - To prevent adhesion between the rubber and model surface, models made of porous materials (gypsum plasters, concrete, wood, stone, etc.) must be sealed prior to applying a release agent. Sonite Wax™ (available from Smooth-On) is suitable for sealing porous surfaces. Apply two thin layers of wax and let dry. A high quality Shellac is suitable for sealing modeling clays that contain sulfur or moisture (water based). Thermoplastics (polystyrene) must also be sealed with shellac or PVA. In all cases, the sealing agent should be applied and allowed to completely dry prior to applying a release agent. Non-Porous Surfaces - Metal, glass, hard plastics, sulfur free clays, etc. require only a release agent. Applying A Release Agent - A release agent is necessary to facilitate demolding when casting into or over most surfaces. Use a release agent made specifically for mold making (Universal™ Mold Release available from Smooth-On). A liberal coat of release agent should be applied onto all surfaces that will contact the rubber. IMPORTANT: To ensure thorough coverage, lightly brush the release agent with a soft brush over all surfaces of the model. Follow with a light mist coating and let the release agent dry for 30 minutes. Because no two applications are quite the same, a small test application to determine suitability for your project is recommended if performance of this material is in question. IMPORTANT: Shelf life of product is drastically reduced after opening. Immediately replacing the lids on both containers after dispensing product will prolong the shelf life of the unused product. XTEND-IT™ Dry Gas Blanket (available from Smooth-On) will significantly prolong the shelf life of unused liquid urethane products. MEASURING & MIXING - Liquid urethanes are moisture sensitive and will absorb atmospheric moisture. Mixing tools and containers should be clean and made of metal, glass or plastic. Materials should be stored and used in a warm environment (73°F/23°C). IMPORTANT: Pre Mix the Part B before using. After dispensing proper amounts of Parts A and B into mixing container, mix thoroughly for at least 3 minutes making sure that you scrape the sides and bottom of the mixing container several times. If Mixing Large Quantities (24 lbs./10.88 kgs. or more) at one time, use a mechanical mixer (i.e. Squirrel Mixer or equal) for 3 minutes followed by careful hand mixing for one minute as directed above. Then, pour entire quantity into a new, clean mixing container and do it all over again. Although this product is formulated to minimize air bubbles in your the cured rubber, vacuum degassing will further reduce entrapped air. A pressure casting technique using a pressure chamber can yield totally bubble free castings. Contact Smooth-On or your distributor for information about vacuum degassing or pressure casting. Pouring - For best results, pour your mixture in a single spot at the lowest point of the containment field. Let the rubber seek its level up and over the model. A uniform flow will help minimize entrapped air. The liquid rubber should level off at least 1/2” (1.3 cm) over the highest point of the model surface. Curing - Allow rubber to cure for at least 48 hours at room temperature (73°F/23°C) before demolding. Do not cure rubber where temperature is less than 65°F/18°C. Post Curing - After rubber has cured at room temperature, heating the rubber to 150°F (65°C) for 4 to 8 hours will increase physical properties and performance. Using The Mold - If using as a mold material, a release agent should be applied to the mold before each casting. The type of release agent to use depends on the material being cast. The proper release agent for wax, liquid rubber or thermosetting materials (i.e. Smooth-On liquid plastics) is a spray release made specifically for mold making (available from Smooth-On or your distributor. Prior to casting gypsum plaster materials, sponge the mold with a soap solution for better plaster flow and easy release. In & Out™ II Water Based Release Concentrate (available from Smooth-On) is recommended for releasing abrasive materials like concrete. Performance & Storage - Fully cured rubber is tough, durable and will perform if properly used and stored. The physical life of the rubber depends on how you use it. Contact Smooth-On directly with questions about this material relative to your application. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terra1936 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Did you purchase by the gallon or 5 gallon? How many pads were produced from the amount? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terra1936 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Supplier Info. $220 per gallon. Buy PMC®-790 Industrial Liquid Rubber Compound from Reynolds Advanced Materials (reynoldsam.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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