Jack Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 On Tuesday night at our Dorset MVT meet, John read out a letter to him from Hazel Blears. She started the Deacts will and I repeat WILL be except from any ban as " they need to concentrate on the real criminals". It is there in black and white from the Minister so it looks like we have done it! She stated that the response that she has had from all interested parties was over whelming.............. Stayed tuned for more details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Pearson Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 Don't celebrate - yet. Deacts were never going to be banned as such: they were banning the sale/hire/buying of them, not the possession. Problem is that 'real criminals' did buy deacts and did use them for crime. My wife was held up at gunpoint in a garage but recognised a deact when she saw one. She slammed his hand in the till, pulled off his balaclava, and pelted him with drinks cans until he ran off. DNA from the balaclava got him 7 years in prison a couple of months ago. She certainly would not have done that if the gun had been live: luckilly she can tell the difference. Personally, I think the Police should encourage the use of deacts in crime: no one gets hurt but it gives the Police marksman an excuse to shoot to kill and thins out the number of repeat offenders! (That is a joke by the way). Let us hope that Hazel Blears is not 'spinning' us a reply! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karoshi Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 ........and I repeat WILL be except from any ban ......... Jack. Sure they may not be banned, and you will be allowed to own them. But show me the bit where it says you will be allowed to TRADE them. I too won't be celebrating yet. Karoshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted November 18, 2005 Author Share Posted November 18, 2005 Think positively Karoshi, I believe it did say that it will all stay the same as it was before............................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karoshi Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 I think you need to read the reply in context to the proposals. Can we see the whole letter for clarity? You may be right in your interpetation, and I could well be wrong, lets just say that at this moment you're a lone voice. Other interested parties dont speak with the same confidence. I hope you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted November 18, 2005 Author Share Posted November 18, 2005 The problem is that John doesn't have a PC so he can't email me :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karoshi Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Jack my fear is that this is careful manipulation of the facts. Symantec's. In what context was the term ..."except (sic) from any ban" used? Quoted out of context I agree it does sound encouraging, but I'm monitoring some other forums and they see it that, deacts won't be banned from ownership, i.e. you will be able to keep deacts already in your possession. The question of whether you will be allowed to TRADE deacts after the date still appears to be in question. Perhaps somebody else can add to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Do not trust anything that she says until you have everything in black & white. I remember her in her former job (DoH) & the misery that persists following polished spin is breathtaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 If any of you want to read a transcript of the VCR Commitee meeting, where they are discussing the issues that concern us, go to this web page http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm/cmscviol.htm and then click on "7th Sitting", this will give you the whole picture. When you get to the bottom, click on "continue" to bring up next page. It goes on a bit, but makes interesting reading. It appears they have been shaken by the response to this issue. Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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