ArtistsRifles Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Started doing some digging on the web to find out what Ive let mysef in for and, as ever more questions seem to arise. Looking at photo's of OT-90's I've found some like this that show a beam strapped over the rear doors. Any one got any idea why it's there??? http://www.1rota.com/technika/ot90/ot90p07.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poptopshed Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 When swimming, if the crew become mutinus it is an essential that you have plank for them to walk off. :-D :whistle: Arr.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted August 9, 2007 Author Share Posted August 9, 2007 Well - as an answer that rates a 5 out of 10 :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Why not ask probably the only expert out there .... the guy you are buying it from :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted August 9, 2007 Author Share Posted August 9, 2007 'Cos when Richard see's them they are as you saw the one at Beltring. All external kit (I assume the Czech version of CES) is removed. Two options spring to mind - but both are really not viable - one is a lifting beam - but the section of the beam is too small for the weight of the vehicle; the other is as a track grip if things get slippery - but it's clamped hard to the back of the vehicle, not easily removable as one would expect such things to be. Worth asking here because some members are old enough to remember these in service... Also asking amongst my former brothers who do work with/for the Czechs to see what they can come up with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Cubed Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 What about stacking another OT-90 on top I think I have seen some pics some where like that.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Neil, Last suggestion seems feasable, ie stacking two high, except that it is right on the rear of the hull, and looking down at the tracks, you would need to be bearing on the road wheels, so this may not be the answer. My suggestion is the old unditching beam idea that was first used in WW1, where they are clamped across both tracks and driven forward or reverse dependant on how, why and where, then unclamped and process repeated until on firm ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted August 9, 2007 Author Share Posted August 9, 2007 Thats kind of what I had in mind when I said a track grip Richard. What puts me off this is the way the beam is clamped to the hull using substantial looking straps as opposed to being tied on for quick release ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted August 10, 2007 Author Share Posted August 10, 2007 OK - got an answer from a man who knows - and 10/10 to Richard for being absolutely correct. Teach me to be a doubter!! :-D :-D The reply from the manual is: Section III. RECOVERY L-6. GENERAL Vehicles often become bellied (high centered) on high stumps, ridges, or mire. In this position, the APC has no traction and is stuck. L-7. VEHICLE BELLIED IN MIRE To recover a vehicle stuck in mire, a log should be obtained that is long enough to span the width of the vehicle and large enough to support the vehicle's weight. Two cables are used to attach the log to the tracks, one on each track. The log is placed against both tracks. The tow cable is placed so that one end of the cable goes over the log and through one track from the inside. The other end of the tow cable is placed underneath the log. The ends of the cable are connected with a towing shackle and pin. The cable should be connected on the outside of the track for easy disconnecting. The same method is used to attach the log to the track on the other side of the vehicle. By gradually applying power to the tracks, the slack in the cables will be taken up, pulling the log underneath the tracks until it contacts the mire, and anchors the tracks, letting the vehicle move. CAUTION TO PREVENT DAMAGE TO THE TOW CABLES AND TRACKS, STOP THE VEHICLE BEFORE THE LOG REACHES THE FENDERS IN THE FRONT OR REAR OF THE APC. L-8. VEHICLE BELLIED ON HIGH STUMPS, ROCKS, OR RIDGES For a bellied disablement other than mire, the tracks can be anchored using just the two tow cables. The tow cables are hooked together and attached to both tracks by passing the ends of the cables through the tracks from the outside and attaching them together in the center with towing shackles and pins. When power is applied to the tracks, the cable will contact the obstacle and anchor the tracks. The same caution applies--stop the vehicle before the cables reach the fenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 Neil, Just remember this procedure. You might need it at Beltring next year with the OT-90, if the weather is any wetter :whistle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted August 10, 2007 Author Share Posted August 10, 2007 Going to need both the timber AND the tow chains then Richard!! :-D Mind you - mad Adreas from the DDR was doing OK with one in this years mud... :evil: :evil: :evil: Certainly scared the hell out of me!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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